A take so hot I think I got singed reading it.

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Re: A take so hot I think I got singed reading it.

Postby Mongrel » Mon Jun 11, 2018 7:16 pm

Every time I see an incel or other online misogynist write "female" I hear it in a Ferengi voice.

EDIT: A friend of mine just let me know that there is in fact already a SA emote for that exact thing: Image

Say what you want about SA, their emote game is on point.
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Re: A take so hot I think I got singed reading it.

Postby Mongrel » Thu Jun 14, 2018 11:40 am

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Re: A take so hot I think I got singed reading it.

Postby beatbandito » Thu Jun 14, 2018 12:24 pm

I would even include the original tweet. I don't think they can even fathom the depths of how gay I want to be.
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Re: A take so hot I think I got singed reading it.

Postby Brentai » Thu Jun 14, 2018 1:41 pm

I don't think they understand that Ancient Greece is an old time.

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Re: A take so hot I think I got singed reading it.

Postby Mongrel » Thu Jun 14, 2018 2:11 pm

Just gimme that old time religion.
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Re: A take so hot I think I got singed reading it.

Postby Mongrel » Sat Jun 16, 2018 2:38 am



He's... probably trolling. Uh, probably.
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Re: A take so hot I think I got singed reading it.

Postby TA » Sat Jun 16, 2018 10:50 pm



But, then, of course.



There is already a term for what he goes on to describe, of course. It's "National Socialism".
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Postby mharr » Wed Jun 20, 2018 5:51 am

The acting director of Immigration and Customs Enforcement said Monday that comparing ICE agents to Nazis is unfair, because “they’re simply enforcing laws enacted by Congress”.

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Welp.

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Re: A take so hot I think I got singed reading it.

Postby François » Wed Jun 20, 2018 6:13 am

Even if he was right, he's just throwing the Nazi potato right at Congress.

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Re: A take so hot I think I got singed reading it.

Postby Friday » Wed Jun 20, 2018 6:59 am

It actually goes to show what most people think a Nazi is: a horrible monster villain asshole shithead (which is true) who plots rape rape rape every day. While I'm sure (and I mean that literally, there are confirmed reports of child rape going on in the camps) that a lot of Nazis actually were for real monsters, a lot of them were actually of the mindset of just "doing my job."

Even if their job was, you know, separating children from their families and then gassing them to death.

The banality of evil is a really hard thing for people to accept; because it means that actually anyone can be evil.
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Re: A take so hot I think I got singed reading it.

Postby Mongrel » Wed Jun 20, 2018 8:00 am

I just heard that these the child concentration camps they're building out of cheap tents in Texas (with sunny 105 degree weather!) are to be called "tender age shelters". I'm sure this prompts the same imagery for most of you too.

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Interestingly, "Just following orders" was actually a legal defence based in existing longstanding (i.e. well before the capital-N Nazis) German legal principle, referred to as "Befehl ist Befehl" (literally "An Order is an Order"). That famous German tendency for Order wasn't just a custom, but was reinforced throughout society in such ways. (Though it's worth noting that even the German laws nominally stated that a subordinate ought to be punished if he followed an order he knew to be criminal).

As we know, this was ultimately and correctly rejected as a valid defence by the Nuremberg trials.

Which is to say that a random SS Einsatzgruppen or camp guard (at least the German ones) theoretically had this in mind as a partial rationalization of what they were doing, literally denying their own free will in the case.

I do not believe ICE employees have any such similar precedents in US law or history to base their own illusions upon.
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Re: A take so hot I think I got singed reading it.

Postby mharr » Wed Jun 20, 2018 9:25 am

It's a huge problem that so many people in the world grow up failing to read Pratchett.
There were no jolly little signs saying: You Don’t Have To Be Pitilessly Sadistic To Work Here But It Helps!!

But there were things to suggest to a thinking man that the Creator of mankind had a very oblique sense of fun indeed, and to breed in his heart a rage to storm the gates of heaven.

The mugs, for example. The inquisitors stopped work twice a day for coffee. Their mugs, which each man had brought from home, were grouped around the kettle on the hearth of the central furnace which incidentally heated the irons and knives.

They had legends on them like A Present From the Holy Grotto of Ossory, or To The World’s Greatest Daddy. Most of them were chipped, and no two of them were the same.

And there were the postcards on the wall. It was traditional that, when an inquisitor went on holiday, he’d send back a crudely colored woodcut of the local view with some suitably jolly and risqué message on the back. And there was the pinned-up tearful letter from Inquisitor First Class Ishmale “Pop” Quoom, thanking all the lads for collecting no fewer than seventy-eight obols for his retirement pension and the lovely bunch of flowers for Mrs. Quoom, indicating that he’d always remember his days in No. 3 pit, and was looking forward to coming in and helping out any time they were short-handed.

And it all meant this: that there are hardly any excesses of the most crazed psychopath that cannot easily be duplicated by a normal, kindly family man who just comes in to work every day and has a job to do.

Vorbis loved knowing that. A man who knew that, knew everything he needed to know about people.

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Re: A take so hot I think I got singed reading it.

Postby Friday » Wed Jun 20, 2018 9:43 am

The key to getting people to do these kinds of things to other people, is, of course, the same as it's always been: illegal alien rapists and murderers dehumanize them.

I have a friend who is a very nice person who believes, in his heart, that Mexicans are subhuman. He won't say it that way, instead he says "uncivilized", but the core belief is the same. He has no problem with what ICE is doing because "it's about time we secured our borders."

I look at him, this man who has three kids and a wife. He goes to church and helps the poor here in town.

Shrug.

Human beings.
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Re: A take so hot I think I got singed reading it.

Postby zaratustra » Wed Jun 20, 2018 12:36 pm

That's exactly the sort of fucker you got to watch out for.

The people that think they're in charge of society.

The dads.

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Re: A take so hot I think I got singed reading it.

Postby Mongrel » Wed Jun 20, 2018 1:41 pm

One thing I remember is that one of the reasons the gas chambers came about is that senior SS officers became concerned about the psychological toll (!) that all the mass killings was taking on the the soldiers they assigned to carry them out. This led them to look into more impersonal, mechanized killing methods.

But yes, that sort of work certainly does attract and breed sadists and sociopaths, as Oskar Dirlewanger can attest.
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Re: A take so hot I think I got singed reading it.

Postby Friday » Wed Jun 20, 2018 2:15 pm

That's exactly the sort of fucker you got to watch out for.

The people that think they're in charge of society.

The dads.


Yeah, you're not wrong. My friend is a really good example of how a normally logical, kind person can be corrupted by racism and nationalism. See, it sounds unbelievable to people when a racist person says something racist and then their friends and family are like "no wait guys i know that was bad but they're actually a really nice person!"

But I totally get it. Racists are, apart from their racism, not always completely vile humans. It's typical binary thinking to assume that all racists = complete shitlords.

To be clear, I'm not excusing their racism, or defending my friend's beliefs or asking you not to criticize him. I just understand it when people say "wait, my racist grandmother is actually really kind!"

The problem is being a nice person to people with your same skin color doesn't excuse you from oppressing other races, of course. That's what the family and friends of racists typically don't understand.
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Re: A take so hot I think I got singed reading it.

Postby nosimpleway » Wed Jun 20, 2018 2:37 pm

I dunno, I see it as "The person who is nice to you but rude to the waiter is not a nice person" writ large.

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Re: A take so hot I think I got singed reading it.

Postby Brentai » Wed Jun 20, 2018 2:43 pm

Pin-pon.

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Re: A take so hot I think I got singed reading it.

Postby Friday » Wed Jun 20, 2018 3:28 pm

I guess it depends on how you define the word "nice".

If being a racist precludes being truly nice, (a reasonable notion) then yeah, it's impossible for racists to be nice. I guess we'll need a new word to describe them, like "rice." R for racist.

My friend is a rice person.

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