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Re: Misinformation Peddlers
Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2024 9:44 am
by sei
Mongrel wrote:sei wrote:https://gwern.net/doc/psychology/okcupid/thedemocratsaredoomedorhowabigtentcanbetoobig.html
I appreciate how this is a very straightforward statistical failure in how he went and gathered seemingly extensive data, but only from a single age bracket. Textbook-worthy example of sampling bias.
What?
Re: Misinformation Peddlers
Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2024 1:05 pm
by Mongrel
sei wrote:Mongrel wrote:sei wrote:https://gwern.net/doc/psychology/okcupid/thedemocratsaredoomedorhowabigtentcanbetoobig.html
I appreciate how this is a very straightforward statistical failure in how he went and gathered seemingly extensive data, but only from a single age bracket. Textbook-worthy example of sampling bias.
What?
Sorry, not age bracket, but point in time. That was a derp.
He thinks he's measuring change over time, but he's doing anything but. By only taking data from individuals at that moment, he's making a huge underlying assumption that the same pattern of changes will hold for all ages, which as we've seen has not been the case at all.
Unless you mean there's a different specific term for that sort of bias/sampling failure?
Re: Misinformation Peddlers
Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2024 2:33 pm
by Büge
Mongrel wrote:Carlson might have flown to Russia to impotently bloviate with Moscow in the background, before slinking back home without anything to show for his plane fare.
I want to see him do that thing where he's pathetically pretending Putin is just off camera
Re: Misinformation Peddlers
Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2024 9:02 pm
by Destynova
Mongrel wrote:When he was first spotted at the airport, the comments were mostly very dry barbs about how the sanctions had forced him to go pick up his paycheque in person. :D
He can hang out with Seagal
Re: Misinformation Peddlers
Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2024 9:08 pm
by Mongrel
Destynova wrote:Mongrel wrote:When he was first spotted at the airport, the comments were mostly very dry barbs about how the sanctions had forced him to go pick up his paycheque in person. :D
He can hang out with Seagal
Will he get Lukashenko's brobdingnagian carrot too?
Re: Misinformation Peddlers
Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2024 12:08 am
by Mongrel
Well Fucker did in fact get the interview. Nothing much to say about it, the usual Putin lies with nothing new.
Fucker's got to be pretty pleased with himself right now. We'll see how long that lasts, I guess.
Re: Misinformation Peddlers
Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2024 5:21 pm
by Friday
I haven't seen it and I won't ever watch it, but I imagine the interview went something like this:
Tucker: Is Ukraine full of evil Nazis that must be exterminated before it is too late and also are the Mexicans rapist scum and invading America and ruining everything and also is Trump the one and only hope for America
Putin: da
Re: Misinformation Peddlers
Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2024 6:08 pm
by Thad
I'm not going to watch it either, but from the summaries I've read apparently it's mostly Putin going on long, rambling, inaccurate tangents about history.
For a guy who's responsible for generating a shit-ton of propaganda designed to sway public opinion in the US, Putin doesn't seem to have a working idea of how to do it himself. I'm sure his public will eat it up, but I don't think even Tucker Carlson's audience is going to be impressed by that shit.
Saw this meme and thought it was pretty good, though.
Re: Misinformation Peddlers
Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2024 6:08 pm
by Cait
What I've heard, it's more the entire other way around, with Tucker just nodded along to Putin talking for an hour.
Re: Misinformation Peddlers
Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2024 6:15 pm
by Friday
My bad, I assumed it was going to be an interview full of softballs and leading questions. I forgot that there is a level below that where the "interviewer" just platforms their guest for an hour to spew propaganda while they agree with them.
Re: Misinformation Peddlers
Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2024 6:27 pm
by Mongrel
Yeah, that's generally how Putin's public statements go, so I'm not particularly surprised it was the same sort of fascist onion belt ramble.
Re: Misinformation Peddlers
Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2024 2:15 am
by Mongrel
Commentary from some Russian sources indicates that the usual Kremlin internal conflicts led to Putin getting different prompts of how to handle the interview from different handler factions. Obviously he either wasn't assertive or cogent enough to recognize this and deliver anything focused on his own.
"The Kovalchuk clan sharply criticizes the idea of an interview with the American journalist Carlson. They say that the problem is the unpreparedness of the interview arrangement - it was Gromov's and Peskov's mistake. Putin should have talked about conservative values, the creation of a conservative alliance, and moving on - but he went into history and platitudes about Ukraine. Naryshkin, who allegedly planted ideas with documents of Bohdan Khmelnytskyi and nonsense with Poland, also played a negative role here. He set Putin up to the fullest. Medinsky would not allow such a thing."
According to reports, Putin didn't like Tucker Carlson - "a snob and a useful idiot who got a meaningful fee, but was lazy and lacked creativity."
Kovalchuk family believes they could have done better with Tucker Carlson, but "everything was wasted." There's a wave of complaints in the Kremlin.
"Meaningful fee", indeed.
Re: Misinformation Peddlers
Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2024 4:18 am
by Brantly B.
Mongrel wrote:Well, except
Classic wrote:Busting your chops here:
Thad wrote:I mean there was that time
Guys.
You're arguing with a psychotic break.
Stop.
Re: Misinformation Peddlers
Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2024 7:33 am
by Mongrel
Alex Jones about to be liquidatedLooking
very likely now that he's going to lose
everything. Good.
Re: Misinformation Peddlers
Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2024 9:20 am
by KingRoyal
Mongrel wrote:Alex Jones about to be liquidated
just his estate, unfortunately
Re: Misinformation Peddlers
Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2024 10:42 am
by nosimpleway
"...in a blender" would be ideal