Our Collapsing Civilization

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Re: Our Collapsing Civilization

Postby Mongrel » Fri Sep 28, 2018 1:53 pm

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national ... 4344190a21
Last month, deep in a 500-page environmental impact statement, the Trump administration made a startling assumption: On its current course, the planet will warm a disastrous 7 degrees by the end of this century.

A rise of 7 degrees Fahrenheit, or about 4 degrees Celsius, compared with preindustrial levels would be catastrophic, according to scientists. Many coral reefs would dissolve in increasingly acidic oceans. Parts of Manhattan and Miami would be underwater without costly coastal defenses. Extreme heat waves would routinely smother large parts of the globe.

But the administration did not offer this dire forecast as part of an argument to combat climate change. Just the opposite: The analysis assumes the planet’s fate is already sealed.

The draft statement, issued by the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA), was written to justify President Trump’s decision to freeze federal fuel efficiency standards for cars and light trucks built after 2020. While the proposal would increase greenhouse gas emissions, the impact statement says, that policy would add just a very small drop to a very big, hot bucket.


Not that "Okay well then let's keep making this problem worse" is the correct response. But they're not wrong about it being too late. Seriously - who are we fucking kidding at this point? It was probably too late ten years ago, if not twenty.
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Re: Our Collapsing Civilization

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Re: Our Collapsing Civilization

Postby Yoji » Sat Sep 29, 2018 7:47 pm

Good lord, I can practically hear Trump and his white supremacist ilk getting an erection over this.
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Re: Our Collapsing Civilization

Postby Mongrel » Sun Sep 30, 2018 3:06 pm

Kiddie Kamps still going strong:

In shelters from Kansas to New York, hundreds of migrant children have been roused in the middle of the night in recent weeks and loaded onto buses with backpacks and snacks for a cross-country journey to their new home: a barren tent city on a sprawling patch of desert in West Texas.

Until now, most undocumented children being held by federal immigration authorities had been housed in private foster homes or shelters, sleeping two or three to a room. They received formal schooling and regular visits with legal representatives assigned to their immigration cases.

But in the rows of sand-colored tents in Tornillo, Tex., children in groups of 20, separated by gender, sleep lined up in bunks. There is no school: The children are given workbooks that they have no obligation to complete. Access to legal services is limited.

These midnight voyages are playing out across the country, as the federal government struggles to find room for more than 13,000 detained migrant children — the largest population ever — whose numbers have increased more than fivefold since last year.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/30/us/m ... texas.html
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Re: Our Collapsing Civilization

Postby Mongrel » Wed Oct 03, 2018 6:29 pm



Starr: oh hey there's a name for this it's like, "Nistallkracht" or sommink
Me: How about "weringlashäusernlebtsolltekeinesteinewerfennacht"?
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Re: Our Collapsing Civilization

Postby Mongrel » Mon Oct 08, 2018 2:35 pm

Mongrel wrote:Not that "Okay well then let's keep making this problem worse" is the correct response. But they're not wrong about it being too late. Seriously - who are we fucking kidding at this point? It was probably too late ten years ago, if not twenty.

Kind of a grim update here.

NYT: The UN just released a report stating that most of the more severe climate change effects could be here as early as 2040 and that it essentially is too late to avert them.

Basically what happened is that climate scientists have been saying for years that 3.6C is the approximate disaster mark for Climate change. However, the leaders of small island nations asked the UN to look at the consequences of a 2.7C increase and the research into that found that many of the effects expected at 3.6C will have already happened at 2.7C.

While it's theoretically, technically possible, it's politically impossible (e.g. carbon taxes of as much as $25,000 per ton). In the international game of Climate Chicken we all lose.

A small bit of hope is presented in that we can still cool things down a bit and reverse SOME effects if we do aggressively capture and sequester carbon at a later (but not too much later) period, but some of the key threshold effects - such as all the coral reefs in the world dying - would of course be irreversible.
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