Grath wrote:Not ALL gun owners!
Am I the only one seeing this?
Grath wrote:Not ALL gun owners!
nosimpleway wrote:Grath wrote:The people you're talking about are a small, but highly visible, minority of total assdouches
Am I the only one seeing this?
MarsDragon wrote:The internet will now suffer critical cognitive dissonance and self destruct in 3...2...1...
nosimpleway wrote:Grath wrote:Not ALL gun owners!
Am I the only one seeing this?
nosimpleway wrote:Here's how I understand it:
There are maniacs who like taking guns into public places and shooting people. That's happening a lot lately. These are Bad Guys.
nosimpleway wrote:This is aside from whether or not Bad Guys are deterred by Good Guys or Complete Jackasses in the first place, or the chance of Good Guys and Complete Jackasses shooting each other in the panic and confusion caused by a Bad Guy going on a rampage, or any of the other arguments against public carry. Or Stand Your Ground, which is a whole new can of worms. The people you hate are a small, extremely visible group of assdouches, but as far as anyone knows, you're one of them too!
Classic wrote:I don't think you're trying to say "not all gun owners", but I hope you can see how trying to assuage someone that these open carry demonstrators are unpopular, unliked and mostly imagining wider support could sound like one of those cowardly dodges. I also hope you can see that it's not super reassuring when a prominent political organization like the NRA seems to agree with them.
The NRA wrote:These open carry demonstrations are "weird" and "downright scary".
nosimpleway wrote:One is that 'assault rifle' is a meaningless term, okay sure.
Grath wrote:The NRA wrote:These open carry demonstrations are "weird" and "downright scary".
The Houston Chronicle wrote:The head of the NRA's lobbying arm said Wednesday that the gun rights organization should not have called open carry advocates in Texas "weird" and "scary" for holding demonstrations in which they carry automatic rifles into restaurants and other public places.
"An alert went out that referred to this type of behavior as weird or somehow not normal and that was a mistake," said Chris Cox, executive director of the National Rifle Association's Institute for Legislative Action. "It should not have happened. I've had a discussion with the staffer that wrote that piece and expressed his personal opinion."
Grath wrote:Classic wrote:I don't think you're trying to say "not all gun owners", but I hope you can see how trying to assuage someone that these open carry demonstrators are unpopular, unliked and mostly imagining wider support could sound like one of those cowardly dodges. I also hope you can see that it's not super reassuring when a prominent political organization like the NRA seems to agree with them.
These open carry demonstrations are "weird" and "downright scary".
CBSNews wrote:NRA official: Shaming open-carry Texas gun groups was "a mistake"
The NRA wrote:"Unequivocally, we support open carry. We've been the leader of open carry efforts across this country."
Mothra wrote:Can I just briefly mention that I love the title of this thread
Mongrel wrote:I think that's probably enough about the semantic argument over "assault [term]". To be quite honest, I've seen that come up in detail many times elsewhere and didn't think it would be much of an issue here, but hey.
It's not that it's not relevant, but it IS something of a sidetrack and is usually used by firearm owners as a "gotcha" distraction move during arguments over gun rights (Grath, I am not saying you're doing that - you were clearly only correcting a definition error and treated that as it's own smaller point).
If we're going to discuss this, I think we're all civil enough with each other that we can agree to at least let the usual red herrings slide.
Classic wrote:So I don't have any idea why you'd bother trying to defend the NRA on this one.
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