Barefoot and Pregnant

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Re: Barefoot and Pregnant

Postby Büge » Fri Jun 14, 2019 4:33 pm

Yeah, vultures actually serve a purpose in the food chain.
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Re: Barefoot and Pregnant

Postby Mongrel » Tue Sep 17, 2019 1:43 pm

This is neat. The university of Galway in Ireland is actually leading the educational field in developing an comprehensive and realistic program on sexual consent education.

One of the primary criticisms of the old "no means no" and "yes means yes" slogans and other similar campaigns about consent is that, well, that doesn't really reflect how people, you know, actually behave in the bedroom (or in a phone booth or wherever if y'wanna get crazy, I won't judge). The "Would you like a cup of tea?" UK campaign was probably the best iteration of that sort of thing, but was still essentially limited to the same bounds.

I think most of us realize that sexual consent can be complicated and often involves many different forms of communication, including a lot of entirely nonverbal cues, so I think it's awesome that there's a group out there that's saying "Yes, we can account for this with real education" and actually put together a concrete program that reflects this, as opposed to leaving the "but ambiguity!" argument to the trolls and rape-apologists as has mostly been the case so far.

I dunno if it's possible to boil this down to a core you can use in a public campaign like the cup of tea one to cover the essentials (hey, this may not be possible), but if so the information is here for an incredibly powerful and useful education campaign.
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Re: Barefoot and Pregnant

Postby Mongrel » Thu Nov 21, 2019 7:47 pm

oh my god

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Re: Barefoot and Pregnant

Postby mharr » Thu Nov 21, 2019 8:26 pm

Wasn't the point of that interview to poison any possible jury selection process?

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Re: Barefoot and Pregnant

Postby Mongrel » Fri Nov 22, 2019 5:28 pm

holy shit this guy
One tweet by Young was in response to a BBC Comic Relief appeal in 2009 for starving Kenyan children.[89] During the broadcast, a Twitter user commented that she had "gone through about 5 boxes of kleenex" whilst watching. Toby Young replied: "Me too, I havn't [sic] wanked so much in ages".[58] He has expressed remorse for his "politically incorrect" tweets.[90]

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Re: Barefoot and Pregnant

Postby Friday » Fri Nov 22, 2019 8:18 pm

I say we just start taking what people say on twitter at face value

because

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Re: Barefoot and Pregnant

Postby Friday » Fri Feb 14, 2020 4:55 pm

"i don't care about politics lol who cares that shit don't affect us" *hits bong*
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Re: Barefoot and Pregnant

Postby KingRoyal » Fri Feb 14, 2020 5:51 pm

When your transphobia goes so hard you end up trying to legalize pedophilia.
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Re: Barefoot and Pregnant

Postby Mongrel » Fri Feb 14, 2020 6:03 pm

KingRoyal wrote:trying to legalize pedophilia.


Oh god I didn't even think of that angle.

JFC.
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Re: Barefoot and Pregnant

Postby Yoji » Fri Feb 14, 2020 6:40 pm

Friday wrote:"i don't care about politics lol who cares that shit don't affect us" *hits bong*

Off topic, but I saw a tweet somewhere that went something like "I don't really care about politics. Now, let me tell you how much I hate my boss, my job, my health insurance, and my public transit system."
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Re: Barefoot and Pregnant

Postby mharr » Sat Feb 15, 2020 11:29 pm

I do wonder how much of the apparent global hard right wing death spiral is just a desperate retreat from the knowledge that Everything is a Spectrum.


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Re: Barefoot and Pregnant

Postby Mongrel » Sun May 24, 2020 2:09 pm

Today I learned that this is service people do (it's a good service even if the subject is creepy and awful!).



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Re: Barefoot and Pregnant

Postby Thad » Thu Jul 16, 2020 12:58 pm

Heidi MacDonald has an article up called Warren Ellis: 20 Years of the Bastard, which links Inside the Comic Book Industry’s Sexual Misconduct Crisis—and the Ugly, Exploitative History That Got It Here, by Asher Elbein at the Daily Beast, So Many of Us, a site for firsthand accounts of Ellis's predatory behavior, and Women speak out about Warren Ellis: 'Full and informed consent was impossible', by Sam Thielman at the Guardian.

It's all pretty awful stuff even without getting into detailed accounts.

And Heidi notes that Ellis's pattern with women seems to extend even to relationships that aren't romantic or sexual; she says her own relationship with him was purely professional but follows a similar pattern where he initially praised and helped her but eventually ceased to acknowledge her.

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Re: Barefoot and Pregnant

Postby mharr » Thu Jul 16, 2020 1:06 pm

I'm going to need a cybernetic death-of-the-author brain augment soon, getting overloaded here.

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Re: Barefoot and Pregnant

Postby Thad » Thu Jul 16, 2020 1:40 pm

The recent stuff with the CBLDF hurts more, from my perspective; it wasn't just a single creator whose work I enjoyed, it was an organization that has done some real good.

It's described in the Daily Beast article I linked. I find that article particularly edifying because it ties the behavior of people like Ellis, Stewart, Brownstein, et al back to the fundamentally exploitative nature of the comics industry and the power imbalance it's been cultivating since the '30s. (But note that it's not just a high-level view, either; all those links imply varying degrees of CW, but the Daily Beast link goes into detail about the allegations against Scott Allie.)

As for the Guardian:

Sam Thielman wrote:And Ellis himself is as influential as the spaces he created: he could be credited with pioneering the “widescreen” movement in his comic The Authority, which starred ersatz versions of the Justice League. Ellis’s writing style transitions as easily to the movie screen as the name implies, and his work has been used extensively as reference material in Marvel films. (The US president in the film Iron Man 3, adapted directly from Ellis’s Iron Man comics, is named Matthew Ellis.) His comic Red has been made into two Bruce Willis action-comedies. His ongoing Batman series, The Batman’s Grave, promises to influence a new generation of creators of comics, film and TV. And Transmetropolitan, a cyberpunk comedy about a crusading journalist – and perhaps his most famous work - inspired artists, writers, reporters and several of the women speaking out against him.


...this is usually the place where I put my "credit the artists, god dammit" rant, but you know what, just this once I think leaving their names out of the article is okay.

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Re: Barefoot and Pregnant

Postby Thad » Mon Aug 10, 2020 12:21 pm

Satanic Abortions cut through unconstitutional abortion laws

Cory Doctorow wrote:https://announcement.thesatanictemple.c ... gn41280784

A Satanic Abortion is a religious ritual that is totally indistinguishable from a normal, medical abortion, except that the participant says a few self-affirming words about her bodily autonomy.

Oh, also: the ritual absolutely forbids, as a bedrock matter of religous conviction, any waiting periods, the withholding of medically necessary advice, mandatory counseling, required readings, and unnecessary sonograms.

Also forbidden: mandatory fetal heartbeat listening sessions and compulsory fetal burials.

If you want an abortion and the doctor tries this bullshit, hand them one of these exemption letters explaining how the law doesn’t apply thanks to the [Religious Freedom Restoration Act].

https://www.dropbox.com/s/mup4nee1n9wkv ... Letter.pdf

Now, the religious right could fight this. But if they win…they overturn the RFRA, and Hobby Lobby has to provide its employees with contraception and all the other theocratic exemptions go poof, too.


I think Doctorow is being a little optimistic on that last part -- it's not hard to imagine a Supreme Court ruling that "nah, the Satanic Temple isn't a real religion and the federal standards that recognize it as such are wrong" -- but as always I appreciate the Satanic Temple's tactic of using "religious freedom" laws to promote freedom from religion.

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Re: Barefoot and Pregnant

Postby Mongrel » Wed Sep 16, 2020 4:39 pm

https://www.thecut.com/article/emily-ra ... essay.html (warning, victim's description of being sexually assaulted)

Extremely well-written article by model Emily Ratajkowski about how hard it is to own your own image, and how easy it is for other people to profit off of your image, ranging from paparazzos to fine artists and in between.

I think we're pretty aware that the trope of "being paid in exposure" is a real thing, but it's fascinating and horrifying to see a case where it's actively destructive you professionally and very personally once you get to her level of fame because you're viewed as too famous to have these problems.
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Re: Barefoot and Pregnant

Postby Thad » Wed Sep 16, 2020 5:10 pm

Could probably use a content warning for sexual assault there.

At any rate, there's a lot going on there and while I understand the common theme of lacking ownership of her image, I'd say the paparazzi photos, Richard Prince paintings, and Jonathan Leder photos are all qualitatively different examples (respectively: photos taken without her consent; transformative use; "consensual" photos taken under predatory circumstances that should be illegal, then published outside the agreed-upon terms, which is illegal but fat lot of difference that makes if you can't afford the cost of a lawsuit).

Aside from the obvious misogyny involved in men feeling entitled to images of women's bodies (and, in Leder's case, to a woman's body itself), these stories have implications about all sorts of other issues, including copyright, work-for-hire, and the legal system. As usual, publishers are predators, work-for-hire is predatory, and business and law are both rigged systems.

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