Rick Perry has been indicted.

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Rick Perry has been indicted.

Postby Disposable Ninja » Fri Aug 15, 2014 8:58 pm

Rick Perry has been indicted.

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Re: Rick Perry has been indicted.

Postby Caithness » Fri Aug 15, 2014 9:17 pm

He's actually one of the less-scary potential GOP candidates in my eyes.

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Re: Rick Perry has been indicted.

Postby McDohl » Fri Aug 15, 2014 11:23 pm

Back on topic, ho lee shit.

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Re: Rick Perry has been indicted.

Postby Joxam » Sat Aug 16, 2014 10:55 pm

I'm loving that Rick Perry is calling his indictment for abuse of power an abuse of power. I am eating this shit up.
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Re: Rick Perry has been indicted.

Postby Thad » Mon Aug 18, 2014 1:25 pm

Jonathan Chait: This Indictment Of Rick Perry Is Unbelievably Ridiculous.

Perry stands accused of violating two laws. One is a statute defining as an offense “misus[ing] government property, services, personnel, or any other thing of value belonging to the government that has come into the public servant's custody or possession by virtue of the public servant's office or employment.” The veto threat, according to the prosecutor, amounted to a “misuse.” Why? That is hard to say.

The other statute prohibits anybody in government from “influenc[ing] or attempt[ing] to influence a public servant in a specific exercise of his official power or a specific performance of his official duty or influenc[ing] or attempt[ing] to influence a public servant to violate the public servant's known legal duty.”

But that statute also specifically exempts “an official action taken by the member of the governing body.” The prosecutors claim that, while vetoing the bill may be an official action, threatening a veto is not. Of course the threat of the veto is an integral part of its function. The legislature can hardly negotiate with the governor if he won’t tell them in advance what he plans to veto. This is why, when you say the word “veto,” the next word that springs to mind is “threat.” That’s how vetoes work.


On the one hand, threatening to veto an agency's funding unless its overseer resigns seems pretty self-evidently shady. On the other, if the prosecution's case is really that a veto threat is not an official action, then yeah that sounds like a ludicrous claim.

It sounds like Perry might have done something petty and abusive. But I'm not convinced it was actually illegal.

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Re: Rick Perry has been indicted.

Postby TA » Mon Aug 18, 2014 3:10 pm

I'd look at extortion precedent. You might have a legitimate basis to sue someone, but threatening to proceed with that lawsuit unless they do something for you can still be extortionary. The threatened exercise of executive power is pretty comparable.
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Rick Perry has been indicted

Postby R19dils » Thu Dec 11, 2014 9:31 am

And Mr. Perry will claim that he can restore prosperity to America by applying the same policies at a national level.

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Re: Rick Perry has been indicted.

Postby Mothra » Thu Dec 11, 2014 10:48 am

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Re: Rick Perry has been indicted.

Postby nosimpleway » Thu Dec 11, 2014 9:59 pm

And Mr. Perry will claim that he can restore motorcycles to America by applying the same policies at a national level.

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Re: Rick Perry has been indicted.

Postby Rico » Thu Dec 11, 2014 11:15 pm

At least we know he didn't kill an unarmed black man?

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Re: Rick Perry has been indicted.

Postby nosimpleway » Fri Dec 12, 2014 12:47 am

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Re: Rick Perry has been indicted.

Postby Joxam » Fri Dec 12, 2014 9:38 am

I mean judging by the state of Texas' capital punishment system he probably has by extension of his governing.
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