GooberGoats

User avatar
Bal
Posts: 648
Joined: Mon Jan 20, 2014 9:13 pm

Re: GooberGoats

Postby Bal » Thu Jul 13, 2017 7:44 pm

Maybe a hit piece they deserved 15 fucking years ago. Both guys have been out of the asshole humor industry for fucking ever, writing Portal 2 and various other Valve media for longer than OMM was a thing. I don't fully understand the relevance of going after them now, particularly given that most of these pepe memeing shitlords are too young to know who the fuck they are.

User avatar
Thad
Posts: 6373
Joined: Tue Jan 21, 2014 10:05 am
Location: 1611 Uranus Avenue
Contact:

Re: GooberGoats

Postby Thad » Fri Jul 14, 2017 1:04 am

But time's a continuum, not a series of discrete events, and the shit that's been happening over the past couple of years is just shit that's been going on for a couple of decades now hitting critical mass. It may not be the exact same motherfuckers, but it's the exact same attitude and behavior. (And some of the exact same motherfuckers.)

It's not fair to lay it all at OMM's feet, no, but OMM was one of the early, large communities of game fans who thought acting like assholes was funny, and that when people got offended it was even funnier. It's not so much a cause as a feedback loop of something that was going on in a lot of places at the same time.

(And by "a lot of places" I very much include our community in general and myself in particular. The nice thing is that those of us who've stuck around seem to have outgrown that shit -- and that hopefully includes me too.

Not that very many of us were ever anywhere near the kind of "Pepe memeing shitlords" you're talking about; I can only think of two, and they were appropriately ostracized and banned. But a lot of us were casual, low-grade jerks, and encouraged each other to be casual, low-grade jerks.)

User avatar
Mongrel
Posts: 11800
Joined: Mon Jan 20, 2014 6:28 pm
Location: Canadumb

Re: GooberGoats

Postby Mongrel » Fri Jul 14, 2017 2:01 am

That's why I mentioned it's a series. In a series, it's fair to have one major group be the focus of a given piece.

If the next article just talks about OMM, then sure, maybe they've just got an axe to grind. But you could certainly do an article on /vg/ or the relevant Reddit subgroups, or some proto-stage that precluded OMM, while linking these instances together as part of a broader series.
Image

User avatar
Friday
Posts: 2782
Joined: Mon Jan 20, 2014 7:40 pm
Location: A user of Sosuns

Re: GooberGoats

Postby Friday » Fri Jul 14, 2017 4:53 pm

The nice thing is that those of us who've stuck around seem to have outgrown that shit -- and that hopefully includes me too.


USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST
ImageImageImage

User avatar
Friday
Posts: 2782
Joined: Mon Jan 20, 2014 7:40 pm
Location: A user of Sosuns

Re: GooberGoats

Postby Friday » Fri Jul 14, 2017 4:54 pm

Wal-Mart!

XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
ImageImageImage

User avatar
Sharkey
Posts: 631
Joined: Mon Jan 20, 2014 6:11 pm
Location: Send Lawyers, Guns and Money
Contact:

Re: GooberGoats

Postby Sharkey » Fri Jul 14, 2017 5:23 pm

Man, I have no problem with pointing out what a shitshow that whole clique was back in the day, but I'd never point to it as the head of the human centipede of shitty fuckin ideas. It's less a centipede and more an ageless macho rat king, all bound together in a big ol knot of dicks and excrement. I'd say that there's not a lot to be gained from trying to untangle that rat junk vermicelli, but unlike most rat kings, this poor, miscreated bastard-ball is still alive. Hell, most of the rats involved in the particular knot we're talking about managed to slip free once they grew into stuff like common human fucking decency, but the shitty rat dick katamari just keeps on rolling. I think it probably started some time around the agricultural revolution. At this point I'm less interested in researching its family tree than killing the fucker with a shovel. Especially if Mr. Baby is still in it, because that guy is a cunt.

Did I get enough homophobic and/or misogynist metaphors in there? Trying to go full 90s here.
Image

User avatar
Thad
Posts: 6373
Joined: Tue Jan 21, 2014 10:05 am
Location: 1611 Uranus Avenue
Contact:

Re: GooberGoats

Postby Thad » Fri Jul 14, 2017 7:27 pm

I feel like it's missing a few references to mental handicaps.

User avatar
Sharkey
Posts: 631
Joined: Mon Jan 20, 2014 6:11 pm
Location: Send Lawyers, Guns and Money
Contact:

Re: GooberGoats

Postby Sharkey » Fri Jul 14, 2017 7:50 pm

Shut up, retard.
Image

User avatar
Brentai
Woah Dangsaurus
Posts: 2350
Joined: Mon Jan 20, 2014 2:40 pm

Re: GooberGoats

Postby Brentai » Fri Jul 14, 2017 8:03 pm

Shut up and drop speed? I don't get it.
Image

User avatar
Mongrel
Posts: 11800
Joined: Mon Jan 20, 2014 6:28 pm
Location: Canadumb

Re: GooberGoats

Postby Mongrel » Fri Jul 14, 2017 8:05 pm

Maybe he's French and he's saying he's gonna be late.
Image

User avatar
Thad
Posts: 6373
Joined: Tue Jan 21, 2014 10:05 am
Location: 1611 Uranus Avenue
Contact:

Re: GooberGoats

Postby Thad » Mon Oct 01, 2018 1:09 am

I've had a couple of pleasant conversations with Ethan van Sciver over the years -- one on a messageboard and one in person. I knew he and I didn't see eye-to-eye politically, but he always seemed civil and open-minded.

So when I heard he was a ComicsGator, I wondered: was he always like this and I just didn't notice? Or has he changed?

Gail Simone says he's changed.

User avatar
Thad
Posts: 6373
Joined: Tue Jan 21, 2014 10:05 am
Location: 1611 Uranus Avenue
Contact:

Re: GooberGoats

Postby Thad » Sun Oct 28, 2018 1:29 pm

ComicsGoat leader is suing Mark Waid for defamation.

Waid is one of the good guys. He's set up a legal defense fund at GoFundMe.

The suit has been filed in Texas, which has an anti-SLAPP statute. Here's my not-a-lawyer opinion of the plaintiff's allegations of defamation:

Meyer also says that Waid falsely accused him of sharing a list of comic store owners (i.e. doxing them), and defamed Meyer by characterizing him as “racist, serial harasser of minorities, and as affiliated with white supremacists.”


Starting with that last, quoted part? That's protected opinion. No defamation there.

As for the allegation that Waid falsely accused the plaintiff of doxxing comic shop owners? Well, assuming (1) Waid did say that and (2) it is false, that is potentially defamatory -- but plaintiff probably qualifies as a public figure for the purposes of this lawsuit, which means that the "actual malice" standard applies. In layman's terms, this means that Waid would have had to either know that claim was false, or show reckless disregard to whether it was true or false. If Waid had a good reason to believe the allegation was true, then there was no defamation.

As for the allegation of tortious interference? That's a subject I know less about.

But as far as the defamation claims? I expect plaintiff has bitten off more than he can chew, and those claims, at least, will likely get smacked down under Texas's anti-SLAPP statute, and he'll wind up having to pay Waid's attorney's fees. (That's the same anti-SLAPP statute that just put Stormy Daniels on the hook for Trump's attorney's fees over a similar frivolous defamation claim.)

Mark Waid is being defended by -- and this is true -- "superlawyer" Mark Zaid. (Waid joked, "I went to him after Mark Xaid was busy and Mark Yaid was tied up.")

User avatar
Rico
Posts: 520
Joined: Tue Jan 21, 2014 2:29 am

Re: GooberGoats

Postby Rico » Sun Oct 28, 2018 5:55 pm

The Mark Waid of Zur-En-Arrh.

User avatar
Bal
Posts: 648
Joined: Mon Jan 20, 2014 9:13 pm

Re: GooberGoats

Postby Bal » Sun Oct 28, 2018 6:32 pm

Bring back Karma

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 6 guests