Race: The Final Frontier


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Re: Race: The Final Frontier

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Re: Race: The Final Frontier

Postby Thad » Wed Jul 29, 2015 11:13 pm

Oh yeah, mention Planned Parenthood to an anti-choicer and see how long it takes to hear a rant about how it was founded by a racist who wanted to kill black babies.

(You may not actually have to mention Planned Parenthood to hear that rant.)

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Re: Race: The Final Frontier

Postby Mothra » Thu Jul 30, 2015 9:56 am

Was it? That always seemed like yet another batshit conspiracy theory.

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Re: Race: The Final Frontier

Postby Classic » Thu Jul 30, 2015 2:57 pm

It seems plausible that this was at least one of its goals at some point in its tenure on accounts of how many racists there are in every sector (you don't have to comb tumblr too hard to find anecdotes describing how racism undermines feminism). But like the article points out, at best a negligible fraction of the people who are pushing this forward are actually interested in improving the health of any children or families, let alone those of color.

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Re: Race: The Final Frontier

Postby Thad » Thu Jul 30, 2015 4:00 pm

It's complicated.

Sanger had some pretty uncomfortable views about eugenics and made some pretty horrible statements about race. But she also found common cause with the Urban League and NAACP and really did a lot to help minorities and the poor get access to birth control. (And birth control was her thing; she really wasn't big on abortions. She believed they should be legal but used only as a last resort.)

She believed everybody should have access to contraception. And she believed that family planning should be up to individuals rather than the state. She had some strong ideas about which subsets of the population should use it more than others, and misidentified certain demographic correlations as being causal. She said some pretty cringeworthy things and it's not hard to find them.

BUT:

If someone says "Planned Parenthood was founded by someone who wanted to kill black babies" (this is, verbatim, what an anti-choice friend said to me once), that's not true.

And even if it were, what the fuck difference does that make to what the organization's deeds and goals are today? Lots of companies have pretty dodgy histories that don't necessarily reflect what they're like today. (Does it count as Godwin's Law if I mention Volkswagen and Ford?)

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Re: Race: The Final Frontier

Postby Büge » Thu Jul 30, 2015 4:05 pm

Or Hugo Boss, or IBM...

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Re: Race: The Final Frontier

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Re: Race: The Final Frontier

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Re: Race: The Final Frontier

Postby Hardly Ideal » Thu Apr 21, 2016 1:43 pm

So... how about Harriet Tubman on the 20-dollar bill?

Actually, don't tell me. The year-long awkward Thanksgiving dinner we politely call Facebook is already reacting poorly.

Maybe it's time to take a break. Spend time away from social media and do something more worthwhile, like sweeping the patio or 'shipping Warcraft toons.
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Re: Race: The Final Frontier

Postby TA » Thu Apr 21, 2016 1:50 pm

Be nice if Jackson weren't still on there, but this is good and important anyway.
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Re: Race: The Final Frontier

Postby beatbandito » Thu Apr 21, 2016 2:12 pm

Considering how well the crowd that already wasn't exactly primed to love this decision handles sudden change, I'm surprised how fast this went from "maybe there'll be a lady on the $10" to "black lady (and rights activist I guess is the best term) confirmed for $20."
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Re: Race: The Final Frontier

Postby Sharkey » Thu Apr 21, 2016 2:36 pm

But I guess they're keeping Jackson on one side of the thing? It's like the bill equivalent of Two Face's coin.
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Re: Race: The Final Frontier

Postby TA » Thu Apr 21, 2016 3:40 pm

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Re: Race: The Final Frontier

Postby Mongrel » Thu Apr 21, 2016 5:58 pm

The funny thing about Jackson being on the $20 is that he hated the idea of paper money so it's quite possible that his face on any bill is something that would have pissed him off immensely. There's an argument that it's fitting punishment.

Of course that doesn't really hold up because it's a bit too scholarly and obscure as a form of revenge, so it winds up just honouring him as intended by the treasury anyway. So fuck him, and just do away with his face.

I'd be kind of mad about him still being on one side of the $20. But it's not my money I guess.
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Re: Race: The Final Frontier

Postby TA » Thu Apr 21, 2016 6:44 pm

Yeah, keep this genocidal fuckwit honored on our money! That'll piss off his ghost!
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Re: Race: The Final Frontier

Postby Mongrel » Thu Apr 21, 2016 9:26 pm

That's what I said, yeah. Sarcasm included.
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Re: Race: The Final Frontier

Postby nosimpleway » Fri Apr 22, 2016 1:35 am

Tell anyone who's mad at their $20 bills that they can send them to me. I'll make sure they're disposed of properly.

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Re: Race: The Final Frontier

Postby Thad » Fri Apr 22, 2016 10:03 am

I think George Harrison is underrated both as a Beatle and as a President and I am okay with keeping him on the twenty.

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Re: Race: The Final Frontier

Postby Mongrel » Tue May 03, 2016 3:39 pm

Jack McCain and his new bride have some things to say to the racists griping about multiracial adverts





Good on him and good on her too.

(I also liked the good natured ribbing about the marriage's real "interracial" crime being that a Navy guy is marrying an Air Force girl)
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