Blossom wrote:Thad wrote:I don't find it hard to believe that he killed himself and that the reason he wasn't under suicide watch is that the guards wanted him dead. And there are plenty of reasons to want a serial child rapist dead besides a coverup.
That said? If someone were to arrange a coverup, this is exactly what it would look like. We'll never know what happened, we'll never know the full extent of secrets he was keeping for powerful people, his victims will never get justice, and that's fucking infuriating.
This is going to be the biggest source of conspiracy theories since 9/11.
But it's not over. The investigation's still ongoing, with or without Epstein, and Ghislaine Maxwell looks like a pretty rich target too.beatbandito wrote:I guarantee he had clients with more to hide, and more sense to hide it, than Trump.
Yeah, that too. If Trump had arranged it, he'd be bragging about it on Twitter.
That said, I can think of at least one prominent Trump supporter who's been known to have people assassinated for saying things he didn't like.
But there were lots of very powerful people with a motive to shut Epstein up. I'm seeing Prince Andrew's name in a lot of headlines this morning.
Yeah, about that.
As always, I don't have your legal background (or Mariotti's), but...as I read it, I think there's a difference between ending the criminal case against Epstein and ending the investigation into what he and his associates were doing. Per the NYT:
Jeffrey Epstein is dead. But the criminal investigation that led to the sex-trafficking charges against him is not.
Federal prosecutors and F.B.I. agents who built the case against Mr. Epstein will turn their attention to people whom his accusers have said participated in a scheme that dates back more than a decade and involved the sexual exploitation of dozens of underage girls.
That could include a circle of close associates whom accusers said helped recruit, train and coerce them into catering to Mr. Epstein, a wealthy financier.
Lord knows the NYT ain't always right, but...my read is that doesn't actually contradict what Mariotti said?
But of course there were crimes committed, and other people still living participated in them, and it would be odd if prosecutors had absolutely nothing on any of them. It's just a question of whether they have enough to go anywhere with it now that the ringleader is down under doing the Tartarus Tango.
The official story is the simplest, most plausible explanation. White describes jails and prisons as a culture of casual cruelty, neglect, and dehumanization. To the question of why Epstein wouldn't be subject to increased security due to the high profile of his case, Ken says it doesn't work that way; to the guards, "check in on Epstein every half hour" was just one more item on a checklist. And when people are tired and overworked, sometimes they half-ass their checklist.
It's probably a coincidence that the FBI raided Epstein's island right after his death. White says that while state and local warrants are often rubber stamps, federal warrants usually take time; the raid had been in the works for some time.
Epstein was never going to cooperate. The entire reason he was being prosecuted is that the feds were embarrassed by coverage of the sweet deal he got last time; they weren't going to offer him any kind of deal that could be criticized as too lenient. Bargaining a life sentence down to 25 years is a moot point to someone Epstein's age. Prosecutors weren't going to offer him anything better than that, which means he had no incentive to cooperate.
Aside from all that, the civil suits have started. One of the accusers has filed suit against Epstein's estate and Ghislaine Maxwell. I'm seeing conflicting reports about where Maxwell is at this point; she seems to be lying low.