"Coronavirus" is the category, dangit. (COVID-19 thread)

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Re: "Coronavirus" is the category, dangit. (COVID-19 thread)

Postby Mongrel » Sun Mar 22, 2020 6:29 pm

Update:


Further update:


<Grant> could be an awkward Thanksgiving this year
<fmm> imagine thinking thanksgiving is gonna happen this year
<3w13> Imagine thinking this year is gonna happen this year
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Re: "Coronavirus" is the category, dangit. (COVID-19 thread)

Postby Thad » Mon Mar 23, 2020 1:05 am

There's a part of me I'm not terribly proud of that thinks "You know, if people get their medical advice from Donald Trump and Fox News, they deserve what they get."

(Talking of awkward family relationships, my liberal grandmother is currently furious at my conservative grandmother for continuing to go to church.)

On a more personal note: one of the "fun" parts of having chronic respiratory problems is that at any given moment I've got multiple symptoms that may or may not be signs of cold, flu, or, say, COVID-19. I've pretty much always got a cough and sinus congestion. Sometimes they're not so bad; sometimes they get worse and carry other symptoms with them. And that's great because then I get to play a game I like to call "guess whether I'm getting sick or there's just an increased pollen count." And I have to guess, because the appropriate way to treat a cold is, in several crucial ways, the opposite of the appropriate way to treat bad allergies and asthma. If I'm getting sick, then I want to get extra bed rest and avoid getting my allergy shot; if that sore throat is just postnasal drip, then I want to avoid lying down and I definitely want to get that allergy shot.

And that's before we get into other symtpoms ("aches and pains" like, say, the pain I've got in my neck and shoulder that's probably RSI; I should probably see a doctor about that, but I should also probably stay the hell away from non-emergency trips to my primary care for the foreseeable future, so maybe I can find a good specialist?), or side effects of my medications (that sore throat could be from my inhaler, which also tends to make me dizzy, which is another potential COVID-19 symptom).

I've had a nasty sore throat for the past six days or so, but I haven't run a fever, so it's probably just allergies. This isn't an unusual occurrence, it's just usually I'm just worried about whether I'm getting a cold or the flu, not a goddamn global pandemic.

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Re: "Coronavirus" is the category, dangit. (COVID-19 thread)

Postby Mongrel » Mon Mar 23, 2020 2:05 am

Fever seems like the main early thing to look at, since neither post-nasal drip nor allergies ought to be inducing that.
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Postby Niku » Mon Mar 23, 2020 5:31 am

Yeah, We’ve been dealing with the ALLERGIES V COVID: DAWN OF JUSTICE here on a daily basis and mostly been dilligent about taking temperature readings to keep anxiety down. The lady is Very Asthma so we don’t want to take any chances.

And now our dog is extremely sick as of yesterday and we can’t get any specific symptoms for a cause so thank fucking god our vet hasn’t closed up shop or that would be a new personal nightmare to add to this situation (we’re going to drop her off first thing this morning for an exam).

Pretty much the one upside right now is that it’s finally giving me the push and time I’ve been needing to actually do the meal prepping I’ve been wanting to, so I’m stocking the freezer up with bowls of Thai and Japanese curry to just-add-rice to.
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Re: "Coronavirus" is the category, dangit. (COVID-19 thread)

Postby Mongrel » Mon Mar 23, 2020 2:11 pm





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Re: "Coronavirus" is the category, dangit. (COVID-19 thread)

Postby Mongrel » Mon Mar 23, 2020 2:18 pm

But at least we get a little levity.



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Re: "Coronavirus" is the category, dangit. (COVID-19 thread)

Postby Blossom » Mon Mar 23, 2020 8:27 pm

Mongrel wrote:Fever seems like the main early thing to look at, since neither post-nasal drip nor allergies ought to be inducing that.




I've seen multiple reports of this. While not present in every case, sudden and unexplained loss of the sense of taste or smell is happening in a statistically significant number of COVID cases, and appears as much as a week before any other symptoms.

If that happens, go on lockdown for a week and see if more symptoms develop.
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Re: "Coronavirus" is the category, dangit. (COVID-19 thread)

Postby Destynova » Mon Mar 23, 2020 11:58 pm

Never mind, scooped on the Candy desk.

Fuck. Dead connection kept me out so long I don't know how to do the boards any more.

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Re: "Coronavirus" is the category, dangit. (COVID-19 thread)

Postby beatbandito » Tue Mar 24, 2020 9:02 am

We seem to have gone from "The Chinese Virus is why we need to shut down trade and close borders." To "we need to protect our Asian friends as this is no time for racism, and we're going back to work next week." Literally overnight.
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Postby Büge » Tue Mar 24, 2020 9:37 am

beatbandito wrote:We seem to have gone from "The Chinese Virus is why we need to shut down trade and close borders." To "we need to protect our Asian friends as this is no time for racism economy, and we're going back to work next week." Literally overnight.
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Re: "Coronavirus" is the category, dangit. (COVID-19 thread)

Postby beatbandito » Tue Mar 24, 2020 11:31 am

"Asian friends" and "no time for racism" are direct trump quotes.
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Re: "Coronavirus" is the category, dangit. (COVID-19 thread)

Postby Thad » Tue Mar 24, 2020 12:54 pm

McConnell opposes a push to temporarily allow remote voting (ETA: that's Senate votes), saying (spoiler-tagged because everything McConnell says sends me into a rage) "We will deal with the social distancing issue without fundamentally changing Senate rules."

I've long since realized there's no point in pointing out McConnell's hypocrisy and double-standards. He says shit like that on purpose, to Own the Libs. He doesn't just toy with people's lives for purely partisan purposes, he actively taunts us while he does it. He is a ghoul.

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Postby François » Tue Mar 24, 2020 1:03 pm

The word that comes to mind is demon but yeah ghoul works too.

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Re: "Coronavirus" is the category, dangit. (COVID-19 thread)

Postby Friday » Tue Mar 24, 2020 1:33 pm

good ol' moscow mitch

tired of just suppressing voters? why not infect them with a lethal pathogen if they vote? two birds, one stone
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Re: "Coronavirus" is the category, dangit. (COVID-19 thread)

Postby Thad » Tue Mar 24, 2020 2:30 pm

This is about Senate votes, not voting in elections; I've updated the post to clarify.

Voting in elections is handled by the states; Congress doesn't have any direct control over how it's done (though they could, say, provide subsidies to states to expand absentee voting). The story here is that some members of Congress are trying to pass rules to allow them to vote remotely on an emergency basis.

The Constitution requires a majority to be physically present in order to establish a quorum to pass legislation, but doesn't technically require votes to be conducted in-person, so you could hypothetically have half-plus-one of the chamber present and the rest voting remotely. The Senate and House both have rules that prevent that from happening, but they could change those rules.

McConnell seems to have dismissed the idea out of hand (though of course given that he's currently down five Republican senators, I wouldn't put it past him to change his mind; that's the other thing about his rank opportunism and hypocrisy, just because he's obstructing something today doesn't mean he'll keep obstructing it when it looks like it'll benefit him). Pelosi doesn't seem very supportive either, but she's at least looking into it.

Other possibilities people have raised are proxy voting -- where a representative sends someone else to vote on their behalf -- and reps voting by phone from their offices.

FiveThirtyEight has a decent rundown.

I'm not terribly sympathetic if anyone opposed to remote voting gets sick as a direct result of their own stubbornness. The trouble is that this policy affects everybody in Congress, including the people who are in favor of setting up some kind of remote voting system. Plus everybody else in a six-foot radius of any single one of them.

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Re: "Coronavirus" is the category, dangit. (COVID-19 thread)

Postby Brentai » Tue Mar 24, 2020 2:52 pm

I mean, if the entire Senate goes down it might be a great time to see how the government runs with one representative House.
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Re: "Coronavirus" is the category, dangit. (COVID-19 thread)

Postby Thad » Tue Mar 24, 2020 3:12 pm

*"not how any of this works" reaction gif*

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Re: "Coronavirus" is the category, dangit. (COVID-19 thread)

Postby Büge » Tue Mar 24, 2020 3:45 pm

One positive side-effect of travel dropping to nil seems to be the collapse of the short-term rental market.

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