Brontoforumus

Do-It-Yourself Ingredients:
Miso, Mayonnaise, Ketchup, Sea Broth, Gelatin, Coffee Beans, Flour, Bread, Bread Crumbs, Pasta, Udon, Pie Dough, Pizza Dough, Butter, Cheese, Fresh Creme, Yogurt, G. Chicken, G. Pork, G. Beef, Ham, Bacon, Sausage, Stock, Creme Sauce

Consumable Items:
Meat Bait: Chicken, Beef, or Pork
Bombs: Spike, Spike+, Poison, Blind, Silence

Edible Food:
Salted: Cabbage, Cucumber, Beets, Napa, Daikon, Plum
Honeyed Lemon
Pickled...: Beets, Cucumbers, Squid, Octopus, Seaweed, Herring, Tuna
Riceballs: Plain, Miso, Plum, Seaweed, Shrimp
Sushi: Herring, Mackerel, Flatfish, Seabream, Tuna, Shrimp, Scallop, Squid, Octopus, Salmon, Egg (with or without wasabi)
Cucumber Stick
Vegie Sticks
Iced Tomatoes
Sashimi: Mackerel, Flatfish, Tuna, Squid, Octopus
Sliced Apple
Sliced Sausage
Dried Herring
Octopus Wasabi (sashimi, plus green spice)
Salads: Lettuce, Daikon, Tomato, Caesar, Mushroom
Parfait: Mocha, Strabry, Melon, Chestnt, Yogurt, Green Tea
Risotto: Bean, Chestnut, Chicken, Pork
Tempura Bowl
Potato Misosoup (Pork, Miso, Potato, Sea Broth, Pot)
Porchetta
Steamed Chicken
Soups Onion, Bean, Corn, Sealeaf
Edamame
Curry: Chicken, Pork, Beef, Veggie,
_____ in Creme Sauce: Beets, Mushroom, Chicken, Pork, Beef, Tung
J-J-Jam: Strawberry, Apple, Marmalade, Cherry, Plum
It Is Jelloy: Strawberry, Grape, Orange, Peach
Teas: Green, Milk, Iced, Apple, Lemon
Scrambled Egg variations 1 and 2
Ham & Egg
Bacon & Egg
Omelets: Plain, Cheese, Spanish
Grilled: Ham, Crispy Bacon, Sausage, Herring, Mackerel, Bream, Squid, Riceballs, Tung
Cheesy Eggplant
Stuffed Greens
Mushroom & Soy
Pepper Steak
Patties: Pork, Beef, Cheese
Fried Rice
Butter Rice
Sauteed Clams
Sauteed Scallops
Pepperoncino
Hot Cake
Juice: Tomato, Cabbage, Lettuce, Strawberry, Apple, Grape, Orange, Cherry, Melon, Peach
Coffee: Black, au Le, Cappuccino, Iced, Ice au Le
Butter Potato
Cheese & Tomato
Oven Apple
Cookies
Pies: Apple, Cherry, Peach, Lemon, Meat, Mille-feuille
Gratin
Roast Sea Bream
Shortcake
Raison Bread
Mont Blanc
Creme Caramel
Fried: Pork, Beef, Chicken
Tempura: Eggplant, Potato, Onion, Shrimp, Squid
Doughnut Bread
Booze: Wine, Beer, Cider, Bourbon Whiskey, Sake, Vodka, Plum Wine, Kumis

Hint Recipes:
Caviar
_____, _____, Jar, _____
I can only guess, unless Roe is an ingredient I haven't found yet.

Caprese
Tomato, _____, _____, _____, Knife

Truffle Salad
_____, _____, _____, _____, Bowl
I can only assume Truffles show up later, unless Pineshrooms are those...

Pork Bowl
Rice, Pork, _____, _____, Pot

Beef Bowl
Rice, Beef, _____, _____, Pot
Not Milk, since those make the Risotto series of recipes.

Sauteed Flatfish
Flatfish, _____, _____, _____, Frying Pan

Stuffed Cabbage
Cabbage, _____, _____, Pot

Pork Potato
Pork, Potato, _____, _____, _____

Shark Fin Soup
Shark, _____, _____, Crab, Pot
I honestly have no idea what goes into sharkfin soup.

Seafood Curry
Seafood, Yellow Spice, Onion, Pot
I have all four ingredients and no blanks, except... "Seafood" is apparently an ingredient! That'll be helpful to know if I can work out what exactly it's made of.

Royal Tea, Royal Milk Tea, Royal Lemon Tea, Royal Apple Tea, and Royal Coffee continue to elude me.

Shrimp & Mayo
Shrimp, _____, _____, Olive Oil, Frying Pan
...Egg and Vinegar? That's literally just shrimp added to the mayonnaise recipe.

Squid Okonomi:
Squid, Egg, _____, _____, _____

Udon Stir Fry:
Udon, _____, _____, _____, Frying Pan

Japanese Pasta
Pasta, _____, Butter, _____, Frying Pan

Shrimp Doria
Shrimp, _____, Creme Sauce, Cheese, _____

Cheese Cake
Cheese, _____, _____, _____, Oven

French Fries
Potato, _____, _____

Doughnut
_____, Sugar, _____, Olive Oil, Fryer

For Sale:
Vegie Sandwich
Eggsalad Sand
Ham Sandwich
Potato Salad
Chicken Salad
Beef Carpaccio
Plain Udon
Miso Soup 1
Carrot Soup
Smoked Egg
Vegie Stir Fry
Napolitan
Bolognese
Vegie Juice
Pizza
Carrot Bread
Pork Croquette (potato and pork meet!)

Soy Brothers (tofu and soy sauce)
Mushroom Salad
Mushroom Rice 1
Pork Miso Soup
Pot-au-Feu
Minestrone
Hot Milk
German Potato (potato and bacon)
Carbonara
Roast Chicken

Seafood Mix
Salmon Riceball
Tunamayo Riceball
Maki (tuna)
Maki (crab)
Sushi (octopus)
Sealeaf Salad
Marinate Shrimp ("with onion and vinegar")
Sealeaf Rice
Clam Chowder
Tom Yum
Flatfish Meuni. (meniere, dredged in flour)
Pescatore (pasta with mussels)
Black Pasta (squid ink pasta, by the description)
Fried Shrimp
Crab Croquette

nosimpleway wrote:Cheese Cake
Cheese, _____, _____, _____, Oven

I feel like Breadcrumbs might be one of these, for crust. And probably sugar.

nosimpleway wrote:French Fries
Potato, _____, _____

Fryer, either Lard or Olive Oil, betcha.

nosimpleway wrote:Doughnut
_____, Sugar, _____, Olive Oil, Fryer

Flour probably. Lard? Milk?

You're probably on to something. I keep thinking of lard as an ingredient -- I'd put it in the pie crust -- but it's probably just a frying medium to this game.

The royal drinks probably involve royal jelly...

Guess you gotta fight some bees.

Apparently a slightly enhanced port of this cave out for the 3DS eShop in February. In English! I had no idea.

I think it's a different translation though. Which, while clearer, probably isn't as amusing.

It is less jelloy

This is a big update, because I had to wait for some work on my car to get done and I forgot to bring my library book. Had the tablet, though!






Ah, back to my roots. Batter and deep-fry everything in sight! It's like I'm back in the American south.


Even with an equipment upgrade and a few extra experience levels, the constant ambushing in the cave dungeon is a nightmare. Alfine learning weapon skills she can't adequately employ is not gonna help.


It's an old birthday card from Siela's parents. This doesn't seem to have any effect on anything except making Siela swear to redouble her efforts.


Another sold-out day, although I don't have much left at this point. Apparently Salted Plum and Beer aren't actually a combo.

Described as increasing found items. I think it slightly increases the number of things spread out across the ground on the dungeon floor.




Siela and Alfine both learn the next level of HP recovery.


More important than finding a new recipe is finding a new kind of recipe, because chances are good I'll be able to work out a couple others with the insights.


And having done that... yeah. To hell with trying to experiment out the for-sale recipes, I do enough guesswork as it is. Over the next couple of days I buy out the recipe stocks at Fred's, Lar, and Ostenlien. Doing that adds a lot of new stuff, but it opens so many hint recipes it may well raise more questions than it answers.


For example, American's don't tend to use butter as a sandwich spread, but it's standard on nearly all the sandwich recipes. I wouldn't have guessed that.


Furthermore, all pizzas come with green peppers on them.




There's plenty of hint recipes to work out.


Sushi: does not combo with itself.

Another ingredient stepping-stone. Lard is kind of expensive to make, given that Jars are $50 a pop.


There's not as much Maki as there is Sushi or Sashimi, but it finally gives me something to do with all this Crab meat I picked up in the cave and reef areas.


You can fry fish!


You can fry potatoes!


You can... continue to discover that sushi doesn't combo with itself!




...I reiterate: who the hell butters a tuna salad sandwich?


That's... a really good sale price for the investment in ingredients.










Whew.

This is why the game's reliance on guesswork is so frustrating. "Ha ha, that's dumb, you can't combo a BBQ potato and a potato omelet just because they have a foreign place in their names. That's ridiculous." And yet here we are.






I mess around with Alter and Lidia for a little while (in Brusso Fields, since I was running out of some of the basic ingredients). Alter has a skill called Drink that increases his amount of Drunkenness by 1, to a maximum I assume exists but haven't reached. Being drunk unlocks some skills he can't use sober, like Drunken Walk, a teetering gait that improves his Evasion. Maybe the self-buffs have a greater effect the drunker he gets?

Drunkenness appears to reset after each battle, making Alter pretty normal in random encounters but probably a good boss-killer in those lengthy fights where he has time to set up.








Hitting level 5 Rank prompts another conversation. The restaurant needs a specialty, like... I dunno, freshwater fish! So let's all go to Otts Lake. It's up the Otts River from the Otts Cave, you can't miss it.


Oh, nice. I just put them on the menu because I'd worked out the recipes, but it turns out people love eating all sorts of different kinds of fried rice in one sitting.


Wow! Look at those sales!

Aw nuts, I forgot to take Alter and Lidia out of the party for the run into the new dungeon.


As usual, there's lots of new loot to be found. And since these two don't have much development yet, they're learning new skills rapidly, like how to not get hurt too bad.


Pretty much any recipe that calls for Water can have it replaced with the water from Otts Lake to double or triple the sale price.


I'd just call it Ott-au-feu, but that's me.


W... wait a minute.

If a recipe calls for water...

You can replace it with Otts Water...


For the last two weeks Siela has been trying like mad to work out the subtle flavor her teas and coffees were missing, and as it turns out what she needed was the pure, clear spring water from a place she'd never been to or heard of.

That...

That's just great.

The plant monsters in Otts Lake are fond of using Bind to paralyze party members, costing them several turns in combat. Everyone takes a brisk drink of Bourbon to steel their nerves before heading out.


It... doesn't work.


Aw crap I bet these guys are super tough, also hey neat I bet they drop Tung.


Trolls. They hit even harder than the boars and bulls do, and hitting hard is all bulls, boars, and trolls can do. The Undines like to buff evasion and cast Blizzard spells to hit the whole party for cold damage. There are rats who paralyze on a hit and sometimes steal money, but I actually welcome running into those -- they drop heal potions of various sorts instead of ingredients. It's the plants that are the most dangerous, since they can paralyze, as mentioned before, and can cast Land Spear for almost triple-digit damage.


Alfine can do it too, though I'm not sure what enemies are weak to Earth damage.


A new class of recipe. Now I know what the game expects out of the various types of Meniere!

(Say "men-yer", accent on the second syllable.)


Yep. The lake is up on the plateau, feeding the waterfall rather than being fed by it.


Near the end of the dungeon is this tiny peninsula where... nothing happens. :mystery:

Oh well, it took a ton of healing and mana potions, but I made it through Otts Lake! Whew!

Revisiting Alfine occasionally nets us a new hint recipe or something, but today we meet one of her senior classmen. I'm glad the given title is "Blond Boy" because I wouldn't have been all too sure otherwise.






Everyone trades in their Bourbon for Tea before the next trip to the lake. Cold Resistance to avoid Blizzard damage may well prove more important than an ineffective buff to the ability to dodge paralyzing attacks.

Anyway, we find a stone tablet here. There's another one in the forest. Presumably I'll find a way to get past them later.


That sounds promising! But the one time I tried to use it, it missed.


Siela has Swords Dance, allowing her to hit all enemies with one attack. Fred has Charge Lance for hitting foes in a column, useful for KOing Undines that are hiding behind Trolls or Mad Plants. So it's kind of weird that Alfine, as the mage, had to wait this long to get an area-effect spell; Volcano hits a row of up to three monsters for fire damage.


Lidia gives you the hint for this recipe: _____, _____, _____, Honey, Bowl. Only 720 combinations to try, assuming all three items are fruit! Conveniently they were, for certain 1-in-720 values of "conveniently".


I would not consider the Balsamic to be the part of a caprese you can ignore.


Oh right, Okonomiyaki almost always has Cabbage in it. Once I remembered this, the Squid and Pork Okonomi recipes fell into place.




The description says "Everybody's favorite" but people are starting to get sick of my Crab Croquettes.


Nobody bought one.

I completely forgot to look and see what these do.


The Boar Leaders around the Lake rare-drop the Blackshroom, "aka truffle", the last mushroom in the game as far as I can tell from the Secret Catalog. So I whip up my most expensive Truffles dish...


One that can take a character over halfway to their next level, or sell for over $2k.


I didn't even need it to win the cooking contest! Although my salesof on the internet remain inadequate to get another Bar Level.


Croquettes also do not combo with themselves.


It's been a month! Checking in with the Secret Catalog, I've found 82.7% of the recipes in the game, working with 69% of the ingredients available. But having only recently discovered how they work, I only have 5.1% of the Combos. There are many more monsters to find, too: I've only seen 27% of them. Recipe book follows, as usual.

Do-It-Yourself Ingredients:
Miso, Mayonnaise, Ketchup, Sea Broth, Gelatin, Coffee Beans, Flour, Bread, Bread Crumbs, Pasta, Udon, Pie Dough, Pizza Dough, Butter, Cheese, Fresh Creme, Yogurt, G. Chicken, G. Pork, G. Beef, Ham, Bacon, Sausage, Lard, Stock, Seafood Mix, Creme Sauce

Consumable Items:
Meat Bait: Chicken, Beef, or Pork
Bombs: Spike, Spike+, Poison, Blind, Silence, Paralyze

Edible Food:
Salted: Cabbage, Cucumber, Beets, Napa, Daikon, Plum
Honeyed Lemon
Pickled...: Beets, Cucumbers, Squid, Octopus, Seaweed, Herring, Tuna
Riceballs: Plain, Miso, Plum, Seaweed, Shrimp, Salmon, Tunamayo
Sushi: Herring, Mackerel, Flatfish, Seabream, Tuna, Shrimp, Scallop, Squid, Octopus, Salmon, Egg (with or without wasabi)
Maki Sushi: Tuna, Cucumber, Crab
Cucumber Stick
Vegie Sticks
Caprese
Iced Tomatoes
Soy Brothers
Tofu & Plum
Sandwiches: Veggie, Egg Salad, Ham, Ham & Cheese, Tuna, BLT
Sliced Apple
Sliced Sausage
Sashimi: Mackerel, Flatfish, Tuna, Squid, Octopus
Dried Herring
Octopus Wasabi
Salads: Lettuce, Daikon, Tomato, Caesar, Chicken, Sealeaf, Mushroom, Tofu and Carrot, Tofu and Seaweed
Carpaccio: Beef, Bream, Tuna
Marinated: Shrimp, Salmon, Otts Trout
Parfait: Mocha, Strabry, Melon, Chestnt, Yogurt, Green Tea
Fruit Punch
Mushroom Rice variations 1 and 2
Risotto: Bean, Chestnut, Squid, Sea Bream Rice, Sealeaf Rice, Chicken, Pork
Tempura Bowl
Udon: Plain, Egg Drop
Miso Soup: Variation 1, Pork, Potato
Porchetta
Steamed Chicken
Pot-au-feu and Otts Pot-au-feu
Soups Otts Chowder, Clam Chowder, Carrot, Onion, Bean, Corn, Sealeaf, Minestrone, Tom Yum
Edamame
Curry: Chicken, Pork, Beef, Veggie, Seafood
_____ in Creme Sauce: Beets, Mushroom, Chicken, Pork, Beef, Tung
Smoked: Egg, Trout
J-J-Jam: Strawberry, Apple, Marmalade, Cherry, Plum
It Is Jelloy: Strawberry, Grape, Orange, Peach
Hot Milk
Teas: Green, Milk, Iced, Apple, Lemon, and Royal versions of each of those.
Scrambled Egg variations 1 and 2
Ham & Egg
Bacon & Egg
Omelets: Plain, Cheese, Spanish
Grilled: Ham, Crispy Bacon, Sausage, Herring, Mackerel, Bream, Squid, Riceballs, Tung
Cheesy Eggplant
Stuffed Greens
Mushroom & Soy
Veggie Stir Fry
Pepper Steak
Shrimp & Mayo
German Potato
Patties: Pork, Beef, Cheese
Tako Yaki
Meuniere: Flatfish, Trout, Salmon
Okonomiyaki: Squid, Pork
Fried Rice: Plain, Seafood D., Shrimp, Crab, Butter
Sauteed Clams
Sauteed Scallops
Pasta: Carbonara, Napolitan, Bolognese, Pescatore, Pepperoncino, Black (Squid-Ink), Truffles
Hot Cake
Juice: Tomato, Veggie, Cabbage, Lettuce, Strawberry, Apple, Grape, Orange, Cherry, Melon, Peach
Coffee: Black, au Le, Cappuccino, Iced, Ice au Le, and Royal versions of each of those.
Butter Potato
Cheese & Tomato
Oven Apple
Cookies
Pies: Apple, Cherry, Peach, Lemon, Meat, Mille-feuille
Pizza
Gratin
Roasts: Chicken, Sea Bream
Cakes: Carrot, Short
Breads: Raison, Carrot, Melon
Mont Blanc
Creme Caramel
French Fries
Onion Rings
Fried: Herring, Shrimp, Squid Rings, Pork, Beef, Chicken
Croquettes: Pork, Beef, Crab
Fried Chicken
Tempura: Eggplant, Potato, Onion, Shrimp, Squid
Doughnut Bread
Booze: Wine, Beer, Cider, Bourbon Whiskey, Sake, Vodka, Plum Wine, Kumis

Hint Recipes:
Caviar
_____, _____, Jar, _____

Maki (Salmonroe)
_____, _____, _____, _____, Bare Hands
I'm assuming it's Roe, Seaweed, Vinegar, Rice... as soon as I get some Roe I'll try it.

Truffle Salad
_____, _____, _____, _____, Bowl
Well, now I know what to look for, but it's a rare drop, so don't hold your breath on this stuff.

Pork Bowl
Rice, Pork, _____, _____, Pot

Beef Bowl
Rice, Beef, _____, _____, Pot
Not Milk, since those make the Risotto series of recipes.

Curry Udon
Udon, _____, Yellow Spice, _____, _____

Beef Udon
Udon, Sea Broth, _____, _____, Pot
I bet you guessed Yellow Spice and Beef. Ha ha! Wrong.

Chicken Udon
Udon, Sea Broth, _____, _____, Pot

Miso Soup 2 and 3
Miso, _____, _____, _____, Pot
Miso Soup 1 is Miso, Tofu, Sealeaf, Sea Broth, and a Pot. Miso Soup 2 has Clams in it; Miso Soup 3 has Onion in it. It's a matter of figuring out where the new stuff goes; it's not in place of the Sealeaf or the Tofu.

Sauteed Flatfish
Flatfish, _____, _____, _____, Frying Pan

Stuffed Cabbage
Cabbage, _____, _____, Pot

Pork Potato
Pork, Potato, _____, _____, _____

Shark Fin Soup
Shark, _____, _____, Crab, Pot
I honestly have no idea what goes into sharkfin soup.

Seafood Curry
Seafood, Yellow Spice, Onion, Pot

Smoked Salmon
Salmon, _____, _____
Ran out of Salmon before I could try the obvious guess.

Udon Stir Fry
Udon, _____, _____, _____, Frying Pan

Creme Pasta
Pasta, _____, ______, _____
Can I put Creme Sauce on this, too? Fuck yes I can! ...as soon as I figure out the third ingredient.

Japanese Pasta
Pasta, _____, Butter, _____, Frying Pan

Yogurt Creme
Yogurt, _____, _____, _____, Blender
I'm fond of using cheesecloth to strain the liquid out of yogurt, leaving a soft, gently sour yogurt cheese behind. I assume this recipe is... not that.

Seafood Pizza
Pizza Dough, _____, Tomato, _____, Oven

Chili Pizza
Pizza Dough, Cheese, _____, _____, Oven
The Japanese are well-known for liking a bunch of weird shit on their pizzas, but regular pizza is Dough + Cheese + Tomato + Green Pepper. If I swap out the Green Pepper for Seafood Mix and Red Spice, I might get the other two variations.

Shrimp Doria
Shrimp, _____, Creme Sauce, Cheese, _____

Roast Beef
Beef, Salt, _____, _____, _____
Might be the same as Roast Chicken, meaning it's Black Pepper and Herb.

Roast Herb Tuna
Tuna, _____, _____, Oven
Well, the Herb part is pretty obvious.

Cheese Cake
Cheese, _____, _____, _____, Oven

Fried Tuna
_____, Bread Crumbs, Egg, _____, Fryer
[i]Quick, what spice do you put on breaded and deep-fried tuna?

Fried Beard
Beard Fish, _____, _____, _____, Fryer

Fried Tender
_____, Bread Crumbs, Egg, _____, Fryer
Tender? Do you mean chicken tenders? (Process of elimination says "probably"; meats are pretty well spoken for in deep-fryer recipes.)

Doughnut
_____, Sugar, _____, Olive Oil, Fryer

nosimpleway wrote:...I reiterate: who the hell butters a tuna salad sandwich?

Everyone I know butters every sandwich they make. I used to, but at some point it started feeling gross and I stopped forever. And I've lost like a hundred pounds since then!

nosimpleway wrote:
A new class of recipe. Now I know what the game expects out of the various types of Meniere!

(Say "men-yer", accent on the second syllable.)

Huh, it's strange that you've been taught that. I mean, that's almost you pronounce Ménière's Disease for sure but that's not a cooking term. "Meunière" is more like... Hmm. I always struggle to describe the "eu" sound. It's sort of like the u sound in "hurt" but without the h or r. Not exactly, but close enough. "Meunière" comes from "meunier", for "miller", on account of the recipes calling for flour.

(And this has been your "François is being an insufferable know-it-all again" moment for the day!)

I know virtually zero French, and I'm pretty bad even at kitchen French.


I approximated from this.

so, I got Adventure Bar Story for 3DS, and godfuckingdamn every single time I see "Smoke Wood" come up, I automatically misread it.

THANKS MOWTENDOO.

smoke wood erry day

Smoke Wood erry five days, when the Peddler shows up to sell it to you.