Let's all go to the movies~

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Re: Let's all go to the movies~

Postby Thad » Wed Nov 14, 2018 10:44 am

The biggest problem with Fantastic Beasts: The Crimes of Grindelwald...well, really the biggest problem is, Johnny Depp is a wife-beater and should be shunned by polite society, and if you don't want to pay money to see something he's in, I don't blame you.

The second-biggest problem is right there in the title: this is a movie that tries to tell a dark tale of the rise of Wizard Hitler while also being a sequel to that movie about the whimsical fellow with the trunk full of cute critters.

And while I actually love the idea of Dumbledore and Grindelwald's story being told from the perspective of a side character (especially one who answers the question "What if Hagrid was also Neville?"), the two elements never really quite gel. Why are Queenie and Kowalski in this movie? Because they were in the last movie, that's why.

There are too many characters, too many subplots, and they never really feel like they quite tie together in the end. I feel like Rowling hasn't quite gotten the hang of this scripting thing yet and is still writing for a 600-page novel. And the twist ending is really, really lame.

And while "Jude Law as Dumbledore" sounds great, sadly he's not. Somewhere in the scripting, editing, Law's performance, or perhaps all of the above, somebody forgot that Dumbledore is supposed to be fun and weird. Here he's just a square-jawed sad-sack. And Rowling (or possibly WB) still doesn't have the guts to come out and say that he and Grindelwald are former lovers right there in the text, though at least the subtext is pretty damn loud about it.

All in all? Eh, kind of a mess. But it's got its moments.

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Re: Let's all go to the movies~

Postby mharr » Wed Nov 14, 2018 12:27 pm

On the fictional front I can't get past the various magical nations' legal systems competing to make Dracula and the Inquisition look like time out at daycare. Cross these guys and they won't leave any part of your soul intact to meet your creator. Does Rowling have some things she needs to talk through?

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Re: Let's all go to the movies~

Postby Grath » Wed Nov 14, 2018 2:26 pm

mharr wrote:On the fictional front I can't get past the various magical nations' legal systems competing to make Dracula and the Inquisition look like time out at daycare. Cross these guys and they won't leave any part of your soul intact to meet your creator. Does Rowling have some things she needs to talk through?

I mean, these days she's too busy "accidentally" liking articles from TERFs, so...

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Re: Let's all go to the movies~

Postby Mongrel » Wed Nov 14, 2018 2:37 pm

I've heard The Crimes of Grindelwald described as "Rowling has finally gone full George Lucas".
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Re: Let's all go to the movies~

Postby Thad » Wed Nov 14, 2018 3:29 pm

mharr wrote:On the fictional front I can't get past the various magical nations' legal systems competing to make Dracula and the Inquisition look like time out at daycare. Cross these guys and they won't leave any part of your soul intact to meet your creator. Does Rowling have some things she needs to talk through?

I felt like the point of that was to point out that the Allies did horrific things in the name of "the greater good" too (she certainly hasn't shied away from depicting the "good guys" subjecting prisoners to horrific tortures before; remember that was the entire point of Azkaban), but it's one more plot point that feels like it needed more follow-through.

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Re: Let's all go to the movies~

Postby Thad » Sun Nov 25, 2018 12:15 pm

The contradiction at the heart of Bohemian Rhapsody is that, while Queen was a unique band and Freddy Mercury was a unique artist, their story isn't unique at all. You've seen this movie before, and you'd get the same rise-fall-reunion story arc if you watched Spinal Tap or Walk Hard.

But it's a good cast, it hits the plot beats -- and, most importantly, it's Queen. If you see this movie in a theater, you get to listen to Queen songs on a movie theater sound system. That's really the main draw.

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