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Re: TV Series On The Television

Postby Mothra » Mon Dec 19, 2016 2:35 pm

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Re: TV Series On The Television

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Re: TV Series On The Television

Postby zaratustra » Tue Jan 10, 2017 6:38 am

Finally saw Dirk Gently and i felt it was ... kind of a mix? There's lots of good moments but then there's some weird, dramatic stuff that feels totally out of tone and ruins the show's pace. I mean Dirk by all means should get some flak for being a flake but this is way too much.

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Re: TV Series On The Television

Postby Thad » Tue Jan 10, 2017 9:59 am

Yeah, I'll restate what I said before: I think the Mangan version was a lot more like Dirk from the books, but the new show does a better version of reproducing the twisty, complicated mysteries.

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Re: TV Series On The Television

Postby Thad » Mon Feb 13, 2017 10:30 am

The pitch behind Riverdale -- Archie as a trashy teen soap with a dash of Twin Peaks murder mystery -- is one of those things where I couldn't immediately tell if it was a great idea or a terrible one.

I'm only as far as the pilot, but so far I'm in the "great" column. It's got a solid cast, and it walks the line of being self-aware enough that the genre tropes (teens making too-smart literary references while speaking in a way no human being has ever spoken) come across as more funny than obnoxious, while playing the whole thing straight enough that it never veers into self-parody.

The key to a series like this is that, whatever changes you make -- Archie's fucking his music teacher, Betty's on Adderall, Veronica's dad's in jail -- the characters still shine through. For the most part, the show does a pretty good job of that; Veronica in particular is basically perfect, and the pilot does an impressive job of establishing her complicated best friend/romantic rival relationship with Betty, rather than going the more obvious route of making them immediately antagonistic toward each other.

On the other hand, some of the supporting cast -- I'm thinking Kevin and Cheryl -- don't feel quite right; they feel more like they've been changed to fit the genre tropes than worked into them organically. But I'll cop to not exactly being an Archie expert, and most of what I know about Kevin and Cheryl amounts to literally judging books by their covers.

Also the pilot doesn't have nearly enough Jughead, but I like how he's worked into the story: he's the narrator and, so far, an outside observer rather than an active participant. But the end of the episode hints at a bigger role to come, and also sets up a mystery related to some kind of as-yet-unexplained falling-out between him and Archie that is frankly more compelling than the "who killed whatsisface?" mystery at the center of the series.

(Which isn't anything new, mind. Twin Peaks was never really about finding out who killed Laura Palmer, and the first season of True Detective was really about finding out what happened between the two leads rather than the identity of the killer. ...even if that wasn't much of a mystery either and turned out to be exactly what you figured it would be from the first act of the first episode.)

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Re: TV Series On The Television

Postby Mothra » Mon Feb 13, 2017 7:59 pm

The Expanse finally started season 2, after ten eternities, and it is immediately fantastic. Could not love this show more.

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Re: TV Series On The Television

Postby Sharkey » Tue Feb 14, 2017 6:22 pm

It's a little slow paced sometimes, but yeah, that thing was one of about three shows to actually win my attention last year. Sci-fi any harder than talc is pretty hard to come by. Also I'm pretty damn sure Miller is my spirit animal. I guess I should read the fucking books. I'm only a little disappointed in anyone naming a ship Rocinante, fictional or otherwise. It's one of those little-too-on-the-nose sort of things. It's like if I was still pissed about a shark that bit me* so I went and got a trawler and named it Orca Pequod Reliant INEVITABLY SUCCESSFUL IN ALL CIRCUMSTANCES** and also I saw a movie once.***

Anyway if that's all I can think of to bitch about then it was probably pretty good.

The other two shows I gave a half-used fuck for were CO.W.-Boys of MMO Mesa, and The Good Place, which was the first NBC sitcom to hold my attention since... Cheers, I guess. Dancin Ted is the constant here.

* I've just realized that given the lifespan of some sharks, the juvenile bastard that nibbled me could very well still be alive. The scar has faded, but even if I'd lost multiple limbs I don't think I'd go chasing after a fish. I think I can let bygones be bygones and just put all the sushi behind us along with that little chunk you took out of my thigh. It's just weird to think that there might be a grown monster roaming around out there that tasted my flesh in the happy days of our youth and was probably high for a week afterward. That sort of thing might be habit forming.

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Re: TV Series On The Television

Postby Thad » Fri Feb 17, 2017 12:55 am

So ComicsAlliance's Riverdale reviews have started including panels from the comic with dialogue from the show:

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and oh my God I want this to be a real comic so much. I want an entire comic that's just a straight-across, verbatim adaptation of the TV show, all done in Dan DeCarlo house style.

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Re: TV Series On The Television

Postby Thad » Wed Mar 15, 2017 9:54 am

There's a Quantum and Woody TV series in the works.

Which, if you'd told me that fifteen years ago...actually probably would have still been more likely than a TV series where Archie fucks Mrs. Grundy, I guess.

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Re: TV Series On The Television

Postby Thad » Fri Mar 24, 2017 11:45 am

Sharkey wrote:The other two shows I gave a half-used fuck for were CO.W.-Boys of MMO Mesa, and The Good Place, which was the first NBC sitcom to hold my attention since... Cheers, I guess. Dancin Ted is the constant here.


What impressed me the most about The Good Place was the pacing. Episodic sitcom/high-concept serial narrative is a hard damn balance to maintain, but they didn't just pull it off, they let every plot point gestate for just the right amount of time before being resolved.

It'll be tough to keep that up in season 2, especially given that now they also have to balance everyone's erased memories with advancing the plot, keeping the sense of momentum, and keeping the audience satisfied given all the character growth we saw in the first season. But I'm onboard.

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Re: TV Series On The Television

Postby Grath » Fri Mar 24, 2017 1:04 pm

Thad wrote:
Sharkey wrote:The other two shows I gave a half-used fuck for were CO.W.-Boys of MMO Mesa, and The Good Place, which was the first NBC sitcom to hold my attention since... Cheers, I guess. Dancin Ted is the constant here.


What impressed me the most about The Good Place was the pacing. Episodic sitcom/high-concept serial narrative is a hard damn balance to maintain, but they didn't just pull it off, they let every plot point gestate for just the right amount of time before being resolved.

So you'd say that they set The Good Pace?

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