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Re: Star Wars

Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2020 3:29 pm
by beatbandito
Hondo is definitely a bad guy, he proudly identifies as a pirate, not a smuggler. Though while stretched I think both clone wars and rebels does a good job of developing his character.

He starts out trying to sell out the jedi, he gives up when it is "no longer profitable". Then he attacks the farm until it's "no longer profitable".

He makes comments about Anakin that seem to have been intended as jokes about anakin's dark side fate but fleshes out Hondo as well. On the other hand he regularly berates Kenobi for always being the good guy under any circumstance. Ahsoka gets both sides, especially with her defense of the younglings (the children he intends to kill to sell their kyber crystals so definitely still not a nice guy.)

Hondo already established a rule about getting involved with jedi and the younglings cinched it. I can't think of him willingly working with jedi again until Ezra. This is all off-the-cuff though so that may not be exact.

Last we see him in clone wars his men betray him for maul, then at the first opportunity he takes them back so they can work together to steal maul's stuff instead.

Then when we first see him in Rebels he works alone now, but teams up with Ezra and at the end Ezra kind of screws Hondo and it's like, he's taken aback, it's exactly how he acts and expects others to act, but comes off as the first time it's ever been so natural. From there Ezra goes out of his way to save Hondo multiple times in a way the clone wars jedi never did, while Hondo is still just using them for his own gain, but never outright betrays them.

Then the final episodes when they track down Hondo he's like "this is so dumb why did you even call me here". And when it's made clear this isn't directly for the rebellion, but for Ezra, Hondo outright states "I would do anything for that boy" in a very serious delivery we never got from him before.

There's also the pig dude that Hondo clearly has a loving relationship with, even if it's just platonic love and he still acts like a dick outwardly. Compared to the clone wars pig dudes that were seemingly swapped out interchangeably for each job and abandoned after.

This is all just as I saw him portrayed on the recent rewtatch, without going back to check on anything so it may not be perfect, (and maybe there is a nook out there that explains how he got space cancer and was abandoned by his crew or whatever) but I think Hondo comes off as a chaotic neutral character who isn't opposed to evil acts and through exposure is made to care a bit more about people close to him.

Re: Star Wars

Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2020 1:40 pm
by Thad
Disney is selling Star Wars-themed face masks with 4 different designs; somehow none of them are Darth Vader.

I want a breathing mask patterned after that famous Star Wars character who breathes through a mask. You know, Baby Yoda.

Re: Star Wars

Posted: Tue May 05, 2020 1:29 am
by Thad
Finally got around to watching Rogue One. I really liked the first act, right up until Forest Whitaker decides to die for no discernible reason. Rest of the movie was still intermittently pretty good, bogged down by the usual Star Wars problems of excessive nostalgia. I mean yeah this is a movie that takes place directly before the original movie but it would have been vastly improved by not including horrifying uncanny valley Peter Cushing and Carrie Fisher. And Darth Vader's scene at the end is pretty good but his earlier scene with Castle Vader really didn't need to be in there.

I feel like, out of the various live-action spinoffs and sequels, The Mandalorian is the only one that really gets the balance right of acknowledging continuity while still telling mostly-new stories in mostly-new settings with mostly-new characters, even if it does lean heavily on its two main characters looking a hell of a lot like Boba Fett and Yoda.

(Also I was watching Clone Wars and my wife caught a little bit of it and asked me how old Boba Fett was supposed to be and I looked it up on Wookieepedia and I know this is not new information to anybody but Jesus Christ you guys the Star Wars timeline does not make any sense. Oh, the end of season 2 takes place just a year after Attack of the Clones? Of course it does. I'm not going to ask how Anakin Skywalker got to be a general in that amount of time while simultaneously training an apprentice. I'm sure there's an explanation somewhere in the canon, and I'm sure that, like everything in Star Wars, it will make less sense after I hear the explanation.)

Re: Star Wars

Posted: Tue May 05, 2020 2:01 am
by Brentai

But no really the very first scene of the Tartakovsky series is Palpatine going "Yo give Anakin command of the Space Force" and that's, like, day 2 of the Clone Wars.

(Also is it weird that the democratically elected leader has to ask a bunch of weird monks to let his appointee take command of the Republic's armed forces? I feel like that's one of the probably-unintentional tells that Palpatine's beef with the Jedi is "from a certain point of view" justified.)

Re: Star Wars

Posted: Sun May 10, 2020 3:57 am
by Mongrel

(could have also gone in cute thread)

Re: Star Wars

Posted: Mon May 25, 2020 2:52 pm
by Thad
You know what, as boring and baffling as the prequels' politics are, we need more children's cartoons where every time someone uses the phrase "banking deregulation," it's followed by ominous music and the good guys looking stricken.