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Venture Bros.
Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 3:46 pm
by Thad
Re: Venture Bros.
Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 5:19 pm
by Classic
So I guess if I'm starting from zero I oughtta just netflix this?
Re: Venture Bros.
Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 5:21 pm
by Thad
Yes. Continuity is important.
Re: Venture Bros.
Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 5:24 pm
by beatbandito
Unless you want more than the first season. Then don't Netflix it.
Meanwhile they seem to be taking the decision I made to wait until the series gets canceled to catch up at the start of season 4 as a challenge.
Re: Venture Bros.
Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 5:27 pm
by Thad
beatbandito wrote:Unless you want more than the first season. Then don't Netflix it.
D'oh. I shouldn't be surprised. Netflix still only has two seasons of Adventure Time, too.
Of course, that's still twice as many seasons of a show that's been on half as long.
Re: Venture Bros.
Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 5:47 pm
by Classic
Too bad there's no semi-respectable way to review this stuff at my own pace.
Re: Venture Bros.
Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 6:36 pm
by Thad
Well, there's always physical media.
Re: Venture Bros.
Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2014 10:02 am
by Mothra
Venture Brother is probably the only series I know of that just gets steadily better and better forever.
The recent Halloween one with J.K.Simmons, What Color Is Your Cleansuit and Venture Libre have been some of their best.
Re: Venture Bros.
Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2014 10:03 am
by Mothra
Thad wrote:Well, there's always physical media.
For what it's worth, the DVD has commentary tracks for each episode by the two creators, and they range from good to amazing.
Re: Venture Bros.
Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2014 11:16 am
by Thad
Mothra wrote:Venture Brother is probably the only series I know of that just gets steadily better and better forever.
The recent Halloween one with J.K.Simmons, What Color Is Your Cleansuit and Venture Libre have been some of their best.
Yeah -- I remember when season 4 ended we were all talking about how that would have been a perfect place to end the show (except that Dean hadn't completed a character arc and was acting like an asshole; everybody else was in a good place to call it quits). And we wondered how it could sustain that level of quality.
I've commented that the show's built such a world around it that it could go on indefinitely and just stop being about the Venture family. Instead, it's really continued to develop Hank and Dean in extremely satisfying ways. The show could sideline its title characters if it wanted to -- but instead it's letting them grow up and doing a hell of a job with it. (Remember back in season one when they were the least interesting characters on the show? Such a long time ago now.)
Re: Venture Bros.
Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 1:43 pm
by Classic
Venture Brothers s2 is on the Netflix now!
Also...
In s2e10 is Brock actually having a conversation with HELPeR?
EDIT:
Approx 9:20
Re: Venture Bros.
Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 4:04 pm
by beatbandito
Yeah, at some point it becomes totally obvious but Brock and the boys can definitely understand HELPeR. Other characters seem to be on the same page as the viewer and I forget if Dr. Venture understands him but doesn't pay attention or never actually learned how to. Either would fit his character.
Re: Venture Bros.
Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 11:24 pm
by Newbie
Classic wrote:Venture Brothers s2 is on the Netflix now!
Also...
In s2e10 is Brock actually having a conversation with HELPeR?
EDIT:
Approx 9:20
This is my wife's favorite moment in the entire series. "That's beautiful, HELPeR. Who is that, Shel Silverstein?"
Re: Venture Bros.
Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2014 12:07 am
by Mothra
BEEP BOOP BOOP BEBOBOBEEP BOOP
Re: Venture Bros.
Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2014 4:49 pm
by beatbandito
Damn, Everybody Comes to Hank's got dark fast.
Re: Venture Bros.
Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2014 4:57 pm
by Mothra
Yeah...
One of my favorite Venture episodes, though.
Re: Venture Bros.
Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2014 5:23 pm
by Thad
It really is a seriously ambitious half-hour of television. It takes real skill to do a story like that and not have it come off as gross or tawdry; it takes an incredibly light touch to make it work so nobody really comes out as the bad guy -- I mean, this is a story that reveals that the main character on the show is a statutory rapist, which manages to present him as a basically-decent person who made a terrible mistake and tried to do the right thing afterward, and walks the fine line of keeping him sympathetic without suggesting that what he did was okay.
Sticking that landing is an astounding feat in any medium. Doing it in a late-night cartoon, though? Take all the other superlatives I've thrown out and add your favorite synonym for "balls" to the list. Cojones. Chutzpah. Fill in the blank.
That, on top of that, it manages to solve a major ongoing mystery of the show, and provide Hank with a sexual awakening that is equal parts embarrassing, disturbing, improbable, uncomfortable, and AWESOME! -- well, all that stuff's just gravy.
Re: Venture Bros.
Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2014 6:03 pm
by Mothra
It's a really, uniquely Venture Brothers kind of good.
Re: Venture Bros.
Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2014 6:38 pm
by Thad
There's probably a dissertation somewhere in comparing Dr. Venture's "Brock, am I...a bad person?" (not from this episode but pretty relevant to it) to Wreck-It Ralph's "You are bad guy, but this does not mean you are bad guy" to Moffat-era Doctor Who's play with the question of whether the Doctor is a good man.
Re: Venture Bros.
Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2014 12:59 am
by Thad