Batman (created by Bill Finger and Bob Kane)

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Re: Batman (created by Bill Finger and Bob Kane)

Postby MarsDragon » Sun Feb 05, 2017 8:54 pm

Scans of a Batman zine from the 60s and 70s. Figured some people here might be interesting in looking through and seeing what the fans were concerned about at the time.

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Re: Batman (created by Bill Finger and Bob Kane)

Postby Thad » Sun Feb 12, 2017 2:07 pm

The Lego Batman Movie is the latest in the 8-year trend of recognizing that, you know what, Batman '66 was actually pretty cool.

It's a fun 90 minutes, loaded with cameos, references, and Easter eggs. There's not a whole lot of depth there, but it spends time on a couple of rich Batman themes, chiefly his creation of a surrogate family and his symbiotic and almost romantic relationship with the Joker.


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Re: Batman (created by Bill Finger and Bob Kane)

Postby Thad » Sat Apr 08, 2017 12:26 am

Bruce Timm is working on a direct-to-video Batman and Harley Quinn movie. Kevin Conroy and Loren Lester return as Batman and Nightwing; Melissa Rauch is Harley; Paget Brewster is Ivy.

It looks enough like The New Batman Adventures that I'm ready to assume it's the first new DCAU story in 11 years.

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Re: Batman (created by Bill Finger and Bob Kane)

Postby Mothra » Mon May 22, 2017 12:22 am



How have I never heard of this? Bruce Timm, John DiMaggio, Tara Strong.

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Re: Batman (created by Bill Finger and Bob Kane)

Postby Büge » Mon May 22, 2017 1:26 am

I'm surprised. Animated gifs of that pole-dancing scene have been making the rounds for years.
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Re: Batman (created by Bill Finger and Bob Kane)

Postby Thad » Mon May 22, 2017 10:23 am

Yeah, I really liked the DC shorts but they kinda quietly disappeared. Probably down to the misfortune of being a DVD special feature right when DVDs were on the way out. But my belief in short cartoons is well-documented. (I particularly liked the Spectre and Jonah Hex shorts and the realization that they were basically the same story in two completely different settings.)

Catwoman on a stripper pole really plays into all the worst stereotypes about the kind of people who watch direct-to-video PG-13 superhero cartoons, though.

Mothra wrote:Bruce Timm, John DiMaggio, Tara Strong.


Yeah, kinda; Timm produced (that and all the DC Universe movies for the first few years) but those definitely aren't his character designs; DiMaggio and Strong are the second- and third-billed voices after Eliza Dushku as Catwoman.

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Re: Batman (created by Bill Finger and Bob Kane)

Postby Lyrai » Fri Jun 02, 2017 2:05 am

Penny Arcade did a strip and post about "Batman and Bill", with Tycho touching on the aspect of authorship.

Relevant to a few people in this thread, I think.

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Re: Batman (created by Bill Finger and Bob Kane)

Postby Thad » Fri Jun 02, 2017 10:32 am

Yeah, I've been meaning to check out Batman and Bill; I hear good things, and Nobleman has really been a fantastic advocate for Finger's legacy over the years. He was probably the greatest driving force in finally getting Finger that co-creator credit, and I believe he's also the guy who tracked down Bill's granddaughter Athena. (Uh, spoiler alert, I guess? Is it a spoiler if the film in question is a documentary?)

(Nobleman shot my an e-mail once thanking me for my Not My Batman blog post -- I guess he probably just trawls Google for people talking about Bill Finger? Anyway, seemed like a nice guy too.)

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Re: Batman (created by Bill Finger and Bob Kane)

Postby Lyrai » Sat Jun 03, 2017 3:23 am

When your mission is to make sure people hear about this guy, I don't see "googling the guy to see who else heard of him" to be too far off.

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Re: Batman (created by Bill Finger and Bob Kane)

Postby Thad » Sun Jun 18, 2017 3:38 pm



Rausch is going to take some getting used to. (I kinda think of Tara Strong as the regular Harley since '11, but per IMDb there have actually been quite a few of them.) Brewster sounds a little off if your ear's expecting Diane Pershing, too, of course, but not as noticeably so.

And hey, Alec Holland's name's in there; presumably that means he'll be showing up, which is pretty cool. We've never seen Timm do Swamp Thing, have we?

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Re: Batman (created by Bill Finger and Bob Kane)

Postby nosimpleway » Mon Jun 19, 2017 4:37 pm

"This is no ordinary leafy mouse!"

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Re: Batman (created by Bill Finger and Bob Kane)

Postby Thad » Sun Sep 03, 2017 1:30 am

Haven't caught Batman and Harley yet; I don't hear good things, unfortunately.

But this could be good:



I really like what they're doing with shadow. Mignola's style is hard to translate into animation, but it looks like Timm's up to his usual visual standard here.

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Re: Batman (created by Bill Finger and Bob Kane)

Postby Büge » Sun Sep 03, 2017 9:08 am

Now if only they could actually reprint the comics.
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Re: Batman (created by Bill Finger and Bob Kane)

Postby Thad » Sun Sep 03, 2017 11:59 am

Looks like it's in print in the US ($11.69 at Amazon (affiliate link)). Not sure why it'd be hard to come by in Canada if we can get it here, but I'd say keep an eye out, I'd expect it to be available sooner than later.

DC does seem to have trouble with its reprint schedule. I'm still waiting for Fourth World vol 4 to come back into print; I've got the first 3 but never got to finish it.

Course, neither did Kirby.

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Re: Batman (created by Bill Finger and Bob Kane)

Postby Mothra » Sun Jun 24, 2018 4:45 pm

Thad wrote:Haven't caught Batman and Harley yet; I don't hear good things, unfortunately.

Saw it yesterday and absolutely loved it. If people are saying it's a disappointment, I don't really understand why.

It's a Bruce Timm DVD movie done in the style of the original batman DCAU series. Timeline-wise I think it actually takes place after Joker dropped Harley off the ledge in Return of the Joker, since she mentions him only once to literally call him an asshole.

It is also horny as hell, with most of the limited budget going into lots of A+ shots of Harley writhing and shaking her butt and such. I didn't particularly mind since that just feels really in-character for her, but, I could see it getting obnoxious for some. Also, animation is sometimes jankey thanks to the lower budget.





I thought they did a perfect job with Harley - she’s spot on the whole way through.

The tone was constantly fighting between full-on farce and Regular Batman Mystery With Goofy Character In It, so, I didn't love that. I wish they'd have picked one tone and stuck with it.

I think the thing is that they didn’t really need Batman to be in this one. I think Nightwing would’ve worked just as well playing the straight man to Harley’s antics, and he would’ve filled the role of reserved on-task dweeb. Hell, it could’ve even worked as a way to develop Nightwing more, drive home the differences between his style and Batman’s, and set the stage for him eventually splitting off to go solo.

Ah well, overall it was delightful.

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