(SPOILERS) Infinity War and Beyond (Marvel Thread)
Posted: Tue May 01, 2018 1:32 am
Hi, this is a spoiler thread.
I'm not going to be blacking out huge paragraphs and shit. Read on only if you've seen the movie(s) or don't give a shit about Marvel Spoilers.
You have been warned.
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Alrighty. Let's get it out of the way right now:
None of the dead people are actually dead. This is a comic book universe. Also, they're making Spider-Man 2, etc. I'm not going to cover all the possible ways that all the dead people can come back to life, because who gives a shit. They'll do something, and if it's just "Tony uses the Time Gem to undo everything" that's pretty direct and boring but like I said there are Infinity (War) ways to undo shit. This is a comic book.
However, that being said, that was a pretty big and bold way to end a fucking movie. I expected Thanos to win, but only in the typical "heroes are unable to stop phase 1, where phase 1 is collecting all the stones, but then in part 2 stop Thanos from snapping his fingers somehow."
Thanos actually snapped his fingers! Yay! Rocket is still alive and that's the only thing that matters Looks like it's OG Avengers time! Also featuring Nebula and War Machine.
(Are Valkyrie, Loki, and Heimdall really dead? I think the answer is probably yes, no, and yes. But I could be wrong.)
Anyway, it's a good film! Amazing that they managed to make a film starring Chrono Cross amounts of characters not a clusterfuck. A big part of that was how everyone got split up into smaller groups so you never just had like 20 people all in one place.
I liked how they just immediately got Thanos vs Hulk out of the way. I suspect Hulk won't come out now because he's scared because he finally lost a fight.
As my friend (and probably numerous others have pointed out) Marvel even managed to do dark better than fucking DC.
Oh yeah Thanos is rad as fuck! He's def the MC of the movie and I feel like that was a really good move. He's understandable if not relatable in his single minded quest to save the Universe by killing half if it. Unlike most BIG MONSTER FROM SPACE villains, he's not simply there to be big and evil. He's got emotions and motivations beyond "wants to punch heroes in face". Brolin did a great job acting the part with motion capture and though Thanos was, I believe, 100% CGI I never remembered that during the movie.
Oh, another thing: Thank god we finally got some effective and terrifying villains. All of Thanos' minions were competent (especially Ebony Maw) and Thanos himself was scary in a way that Loki, Ultron, Ronan, etc never have been. It was really nice to see that the supposed "meanest, toughest bad guy in the Universe" wasn't just a bag of hot wind as they so often turn out to be.
Red Skull is back! Why? Why the fuck not I assume it was to kind of show that things were coming to an end? When really old shit from forever ago that you thought you'd never see again comes back, that's usually a sign that an arc is about done.
Speaking of arcs, I assume the next film will end the OG Avengers. I know at least RDJ and Evans are going. But it's very possible that Thor, Widow, Hulk, and Hawkeye will bow out for good as well. The Stark death fake out was nice. The whole theater gasped when Thanos stabbed him. But in the end, he has to watch as the nightmare he's always feared, always had in the back of his mind, happens right in front of him. Despite everything Tony has done, Ultron, the Accords, ruining his relationship with Pepper, he couldn't stop his worst fear from coming true. I legit teared up when Peter died in his arms. (Despite knowing nothing that happens is permanent, still.)
We know that this is the only path that results in a "win", because Dr. Strange saw it and said it had to be done. I assume Tony not dying is the key, because
1. There was no way to stop Thanos from snapping his fingers in all 14 million futures viewed.
2. Tony has to survive because he's the one who manages to undo it.
3. And that's why Strange gave up the Time Stone to save him.
Is Ant-Man 2 going to be set post Halving? That'd be interesting. I hope it is and not just "this happened 6 months prior to Infinity War" the title card.
Uh, what else.
Rocket continues to be the best Avenger Rocket continues to be the best movie character
"Imma get that arm"
Strange vs Thanos best fight in movie. I get the impression that if he had actually been using the Time Gem, he could have actually put up a really decent fight. Strange is, after all, arguably the biggest gun they have.
Vision was really a fucking Load in this one. He's supposed to be mega-powerful but spends the whole film getting fucking bodied. Oh well.
A LANNISTER ALWAYS FORGES AN AXE
Seeing Banner get to do a bunch of cool shit was nice. I like Banner and more of him is always good.
Uh there's probably more but I'm forgetting
discuss
I'm not going to be blacking out huge paragraphs and shit. Read on only if you've seen the movie(s) or don't give a shit about Marvel Spoilers.
You have been warned.
*************
************
********
******
****
**
*
Alrighty. Let's get it out of the way right now:
None of the dead people are actually dead. This is a comic book universe. Also, they're making Spider-Man 2, etc. I'm not going to cover all the possible ways that all the dead people can come back to life, because who gives a shit. They'll do something, and if it's just "Tony uses the Time Gem to undo everything" that's pretty direct and boring but like I said there are Infinity (War) ways to undo shit. This is a comic book.
However, that being said, that was a pretty big and bold way to end a fucking movie. I expected Thanos to win, but only in the typical "heroes are unable to stop phase 1, where phase 1 is collecting all the stones, but then in part 2 stop Thanos from snapping his fingers somehow."
Thanos actually snapped his fingers! Yay! Rocket is still alive and that's the only thing that matters Looks like it's OG Avengers time! Also featuring Nebula and War Machine.
(Are Valkyrie, Loki, and Heimdall really dead? I think the answer is probably yes, no, and yes. But I could be wrong.)
Anyway, it's a good film! Amazing that they managed to make a film starring Chrono Cross amounts of characters not a clusterfuck. A big part of that was how everyone got split up into smaller groups so you never just had like 20 people all in one place.
I liked how they just immediately got Thanos vs Hulk out of the way. I suspect Hulk won't come out now because he's scared because he finally lost a fight.
As my friend (and probably numerous others have pointed out) Marvel even managed to do dark better than fucking DC.
Oh yeah Thanos is rad as fuck! He's def the MC of the movie and I feel like that was a really good move. He's understandable if not relatable in his single minded quest to save the Universe by killing half if it. Unlike most BIG MONSTER FROM SPACE villains, he's not simply there to be big and evil. He's got emotions and motivations beyond "wants to punch heroes in face". Brolin did a great job acting the part with motion capture and though Thanos was, I believe, 100% CGI I never remembered that during the movie.
Oh, another thing: Thank god we finally got some effective and terrifying villains. All of Thanos' minions were competent (especially Ebony Maw) and Thanos himself was scary in a way that Loki, Ultron, Ronan, etc never have been. It was really nice to see that the supposed "meanest, toughest bad guy in the Universe" wasn't just a bag of hot wind as they so often turn out to be.
Red Skull is back! Why? Why the fuck not I assume it was to kind of show that things were coming to an end? When really old shit from forever ago that you thought you'd never see again comes back, that's usually a sign that an arc is about done.
Speaking of arcs, I assume the next film will end the OG Avengers. I know at least RDJ and Evans are going. But it's very possible that Thor, Widow, Hulk, and Hawkeye will bow out for good as well. The Stark death fake out was nice. The whole theater gasped when Thanos stabbed him. But in the end, he has to watch as the nightmare he's always feared, always had in the back of his mind, happens right in front of him. Despite everything Tony has done, Ultron, the Accords, ruining his relationship with Pepper, he couldn't stop his worst fear from coming true. I legit teared up when Peter died in his arms. (Despite knowing nothing that happens is permanent, still.)
We know that this is the only path that results in a "win", because Dr. Strange saw it and said it had to be done. I assume Tony not dying is the key, because
1. There was no way to stop Thanos from snapping his fingers in all 14 million futures viewed.
2. Tony has to survive because he's the one who manages to undo it.
3. And that's why Strange gave up the Time Stone to save him.
Is Ant-Man 2 going to be set post Halving? That'd be interesting. I hope it is and not just "this happened 6 months prior to Infinity War" the title card.
Uh, what else.
Rocket continues to be the best Avenger Rocket continues to be the best movie character
"Imma get that arm"
Strange vs Thanos best fight in movie. I get the impression that if he had actually been using the Time Gem, he could have actually put up a really decent fight. Strange is, after all, arguably the biggest gun they have.
Vision was really a fucking Load in this one. He's supposed to be mega-powerful but spends the whole film getting fucking bodied. Oh well.
A LANNISTER ALWAYS FORGES AN AXE
Seeing Banner get to do a bunch of cool shit was nice. I like Banner and more of him is always good.
Uh there's probably more but I'm forgetting
discuss