Oh shit, what are we gonna do now?

[Mongrel]

Okay, this is one ice cold burn.

[Mongrel]

I shouldn't revel in this, but... Salt, glorious Salt.

[Friday]

Unlike rebel scum, we don't wish death and suffering on those who practice the Dark Side of the Force.

*Vader throws Palpatine to his death*

Darth Vader I hope you die a slow painful death from your Force Lighting in the face, Traitorous Jedi Cuck

[Mazian]

Preibus gets the knife.

[Mongrel]

Here come the oompa loompas.

[Mongrel]

Oh, and in TOTALLY UNRELATED NEWS to yesterday, Mooch's wife just filed for divorce.

<ewie> I was gone for ONE HOUR guys
<Grant> dumpster fires don't have a pause button

[Brantly B.]

It's gotten to the point where I barely have enough time to learn who the fuck any of these people are or why they're supposed to be important before they blow up and disappear.

[Mongrel]

Speaking of things blowing up...





Allow me to remind you that Rebus' replacement, Kelly, is ex-military (worse: ex-Marine).

This thread and the "GOP will eat itself" thread are colliding hard.

[Grath]

Not the Onion.

[Mongrel]

Some more detail on McCain's vote:


You sly son of a bitch. You magnificent bastard.


As well as a little levity:

[Joxam]

I am glad it happened, don't get me wrong, but I have a huge problem with healthcare for millions resting on the conscience of a dying man trying to write a good chapter at the end of his legacy.

[Mongrel]

Yep. I think most of us commented on how desperately close that was.

It's like they said over and over during the election. If three of your five friends vote to have pizza and two of them vote to kill and eat you, you still have two friends who voted to kill and eat you.

Only, as it turned out, it was three friends who voted to kill and eat you.

[pacobird]

I am glad it happened, don't get me wrong, but I have a huge problem with healthcare for millions resting on the conscience of a dying man trying to write a good chapter at the end of his legacy.

It's always been this way, though.

[Newbie]

It's my understanding that the reconciliation rules limit the number of bills passed using that method—the fact that this failed under reconciliation does not eliminate it from future attempts, and even if it did, the fiscal year ends in like two months anyway.

The one justification I could see for McCain's stunt is that he thought that if McConnell & company thought he was a guaranteed yes they would let the vote happen without having already secured the other two no votes, and so it wasn't just that this was dramatic, it was the only way they could kill this thing.

[Mongrel]

Yeah, regardless of whether the kill is final or not, he duped them (and everyone!) but good with the MTP vote.

There's something to be said for being willing to endure the hatred of millions to keep up your disguise, even if it was only for a couple days.

[Bal]

I love the delivery. Right to McConnell's face

[pacobird]

It's my understanding that the reconciliation rules limit the number of bills passed using that method—the fact that this failed under reconciliation does not eliminate it from future attempts, and even if it did, the fiscal year ends in like two months anyway.

The one justification I could see for McCain's stunt is that he thought that if McConnell & company thought he was a guaranteed yes they would let the vote happen without having already secured the other two no votes, and so it wasn't just that this was dramatic, it was the only way they could kill this thing.

More importantly, they not only limit the number of bills that can be voted on but limit the time for debate on them to 20 hours. The 20 hours are up, so McConnell can't retreat to back rooms and keep tinkering with stuff like the Cruz and Portman amendments to create something still called the BCRA that'll pass. That's why this epic gaslighting was so crucial: McCain had to get McConnell to think he had the votes for skinny repeal so that he'd bring it to the floor (and McCain voted to proceed). Otherwise, McConnell doesn't bring up the motion to proceed and the debate clock is preserved.

Also, people are using the word "year" loosely, but in this context it usually means the session, not the fiscal year.

[Newbie]

This thread is perhaps a better explanation of what I was trying to say:



I say "perhaps" because actually that thread is pretty hard to follow, too, but my understanding is that this vote is more of a strike against Republican morale than it is a definitive defeat of the skinny repeal. The hoops they have to jump through are inconvenient, but not as stringent as in the image above.

[pacobird]

He's not addressing the 20 hour debate limit.

EDIT: https://www.congress.gov/crec/2017/07/2 ... gS4415.pdf "THE PRESIDING OFFICER: All time has expired." And then they proceed to a vote.

[Mongrel]

I can't even parse this: