Let's all go to the movies~

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Re: Let's all go to the movies~

Postby Mongrel » Sat Mar 16, 2019 12:19 am

In a not-all-that-surprising move, James Gunn has been reinstated as director for GotG 3.

Kinda almost a shame if the rumoured alternative of Taika Watiti was true. Would have sure been interesting and possibly amazing.

Either way, at least someone who knows what they're doing is in charge, hopefully?
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Re: Let's all go to the movies~

Postby TA » Sat Mar 16, 2019 1:04 am

GotG2 was like, blisteringly misogynistic so I dunno about that. Sure is a good thing they fired the woman who did all the research, story writing, and screenwriting for GotG and let Gunn take over.

Also it's been at least twenty years since the last one, and Pratt's done a lot of running his mouth about his beliefs and values. Kinda fuck any project he's on.
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Re: Let's all go to the movies~

Postby Thad » Sat Mar 23, 2019 11:37 pm

Everything that Zack Snyder's superhero movies got wrong, Shazam gets right.

It's a superhero movie about family, and it remembers that superheroes are supposed to be fun movies for kids. But more than that, it's in the Stranger Things mold of being a throwback to '80s movies about kids who hang out and curse and talk shit to each other -- it feels a little bit like Stand By Me, or ET, or The Goonies, or The Bad News Bears or The Sandlot (those last two weren't from the '80s, but you know what I mean). And there's a lot of Big in there, and the movie has the good sense to hang a lampshade on that.

If I have one minor gripe, it's that Mark Strong plays a great Lex Luthor but for some reason everyone keeps calling him Thaddeus Sivana. How Lex Luthor is Dr. Sivana in this movie? He's so Lex Luthor that his father is an evil businessman played by John Glover.

But, "not my Sivana" grousing aside, DC has finally gone and made a non-animated superhero movie that I can praise unreservedly. Go see this movie. Because Aquaman made a billion dollars, and this movie is actually good.

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Re: Let's all go to the movies~

Postby Newbie » Sun Mar 24, 2019 12:43 am

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Re: Let's all go to the movies~

Postby Thad » Sun Mar 24, 2019 12:04 pm

Thad Overthinks Jokes Dept:

There is a scene where Shazam and Freddy go to a realtor and try to buy a superhero lair. Freddy says that they would like a large building on the edge of a cliff, with a nearby waterfall they can use as an entrance.

So, okay. This establishes that the DCEU is a place where, much like our world, superhero fans are able to accurately describe the location of the Batcave.

So one assumes that the only reason the Batcave is not constantly inundated with uninvited fanboys taking selfies is that we've also established that the DCEU is a place where Batman is a fucking psychopath who brands people.

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Re: Let's all go to the movies~

Postby Mothra » Sun Mar 24, 2019 12:19 pm

I missed the original discussion about this back when BvS came out but man, the more I think about Batman branding criminals, the more fucked up it gets. Obviously the worst is that it "marks them for death" in the overstuffed prisons he's filled with supercriminals, but beyond that, whoever is branded has not been "branded a criminal" for life.

It goes against the very basic high-falutin' Batman idea of trying to treat his villains like humans and get them psychiatric help, with the goal of eventually reintroducing them to society with a clean slate. I can only guess that Snyder just wanted a way for Batman to kill people without directly killing them.

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Re: Let's all go to the movies~

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Re: Let's all go to the movies~

Postby Thad » Sun Mar 24, 2019 12:41 pm

Mothra wrote:It goes against the very basic high-falutin' Batman idea of trying to treat his villains like humans and get them psychiatric help, with the goal of eventually reintroducing them to society with a clean slate. I can only guess that Snyder just wanted a way for Batman to kill people without directly killing them.

You know what? Somebody should put Zack Snyder in touch with Robin Snyder, see if they can reach a deal to make a Mr. A movie or something. Dude wants to do violent superheroes who get their morality from Ayn Rand, he's got options that don't involve Superman snapping necks and machine guns on the Batmobile.

As dumb an idea as I think the rumored "let's do Flashpoint and reset stuff so people can just block out Suicide Squad and everything involving Cavill or Affleck" plan is, if it lets us keep the good bits of the DCEU while throwing out the bad ones then I'll take it.

Pity the current news seems to be that Ezra Miller is holding out for a darker Flash script. Because that's what the DCEU has been missing all this time: darker scripts.

While I admit to some curiosity as to what a Grant Morrison Flash movie script would look like, I'm really hoping Shazam does Aquaman numbers (or at least Wonder Woman numbers) and helps convince whoever the fuck is in charge of DC Films at this point that fun movies sell tickets.

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Re: Let's all go to the movies~

Postby Thad » Mon Mar 25, 2019 1:04 am

Thad wrote:You know what? Somebody should put Zack Snyder in touch with Robin Snyder, see if they can reach a deal to make a Mr. A movie or something. Dude wants to do violent superheroes who get their morality from Ayn Rand, he's got options that don't involve Superman snapping necks and machine guns on the Batmobile.

You know, I'm being unfair to Ditko here. Mr. A never branded anybody. And while he would absolutely snap a villain's neck, he wouldn't demolish half a major city first. And if anybody in a Ditko comic tells somebody not to save a bus full of kids, you better believe they're not the hero.

And for all that Mr. A will remorselessly kill somebody who takes a swing at him and then deliver a two-page monologue about the initiation of force, he also believes in redemption, at least sometimes. My favorite Mr. A story is about a thug who's just gotten out of prison; he's tempted to go back into his old life with his old gang, but in the end, he chooses to do the right thing. That's really pretty core to Ditko's morality: the idea that right and wrong can be quantified, scales can be balanced, debts can be paid. The premise of that story is that the criminal did wrong, but he paid his debt to society and he gets to start with a clean slate. From there, he has the same choice as anybody else, between right and wrong.

It's all reductive, childish nonsense, of course, but this is superheroes we're talking about. And I vastly prefer Steve Ditko's reductive, childish nonsense to Zack Snyder's.

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Re: Let's all go to the movies~

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Re: Let's all go to the movies~

Postby Thad » Fri Apr 26, 2019 12:31 am

My recollection was that SHIELD was fairly clear in establishing that Izzy Hartley was Victoria Hand's partner, but it's been awhile and it may have been one of those Dumbledore things where it's clearly implied but not actually stated.

Plus, while the TV shows are kinda part of the MCU, I can see why you wouldn't count them.

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Re: Let's all go to the movies~

Postby Rico » Fri Apr 26, 2019 2:34 am

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I mean, it clears the JK Rowling bar?

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Re: Let's all go to the movies~

Postby Friday » Fri Apr 26, 2019 4:39 pm

The Rowling Test: Two characters, of the same gender, are on screen for more than 30 seconds together, and they talk about how they're gay but not in a gay way
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Re: Let's all go to the movies~

Postby Thad » Sat Apr 27, 2019 1:52 am

Since we're on the subject: I never finished Adventure Time (got as far as Finn losing his arm and thought man, this show's getting pretty heavy); did it ever come out and acknowledge Princess Bubblegum and Marceline's relationship, or did that stay a Dumbledore thing where the writers talked about it in interviews but the show kept it subtextual?

Because they're still making comics, and I just read issue #4 of the Marcy & Simon miniseries and after a couple of pages of the usual coy blushing "I'll always be with you" stuff, Bonnie kisses her and says "I love you" and that kinda seemed like a big deal but I didn't actually get deep enough into the show to know whether they'd actually come out and said it plainly before.

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Re: Let's all go to the movies~

Postby TA » Sat Apr 27, 2019 12:18 pm

I think they kissed at the very last moment of the very last episode or something.
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Re: Let's all go to the movies~

Postby Friday » Sat Apr 27, 2019 12:54 pm

Yeah, final episode kiss.

To be fair, while you could argue it was "subtextual" before, it was really, really obvious to anyone paying even the slightest amount of attention.

For example, Bubblegum wakes up and smells Marcy's old shirt while still in bed, which may as well have had a disclaimer running under the scene that read "Warning: Super Gay."
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Re: Let's all go to the movies~

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Re: Let's all go to the movies~

Postby Büge » Sat Apr 27, 2019 2:47 pm

Friday wrote:The Rowling Test: Two characters, of the same gender, are on screen for more than 30 seconds together, and they talk about how they're gay but not in a gay way


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Re: Let's all go to the movies~

Postby Mothra » Sat Apr 27, 2019 3:34 pm

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Re: Let's all go to the movies~

Postby beatbandito » Sat Apr 27, 2019 4:15 pm

Yeah, the horrors of posting from phones I didn't realize, but the only other options are screenshots of Instagram posts.
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