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Re: DC Animation

Postby Thad » Thu Apr 25, 2019 10:48 am

You might want to look into the cropping on the HD version of Justice League before you take those DVDs to Bookmans.

IIRC Timm wanted to do season 2 in widescreen but CN insisted on 4:3; the DVD version is 4:3 but the Blu-Ray is cropped to 16:9. Timm considers the widescreen version to be the definitive version and how it was always meant to look, but it *is* cropped and missing some stuff that you can see at the edges of the picture on the DVD version.

At least, that's how I remember it; I don't have links onhand and may be misremembering some of the details (I *think* it was just season 2 but maybe it was season 1 too? Or just season 1?). Anyway, if that's the sort of thing that would impact your decision to upgrade, it's worth doing a little research first.

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Re: DC Animation

Postby Thad » Fri Apr 26, 2019 12:35 am

I'm six episodes into Young Justice season 3 and I'm kinda starting to wonder if all the continuity references are so heavy as to lose viewers who aren't well-versed in DC lore. Like, the episode in question introduces Jason Todd and Damian Wayne without bothering to explain who they are, and, like...are these plot points that are going to pay off later, or is it just another Easter egg like having Snapper Carr show up in the previous episode? Because it sure seems like anybody who doesn't know the significance of an unnamed Talia showing up holding a baby and then a masked assassin recognizing Dick and Ra's commenting that his memories are returning is going to have questions about what the fuck just happened.

Also: damn, guess this means we won't get to see Damian as Robin unless there's another time jump. (Maybe season 4? It hasn't actually been confirmed that there's going to be one, but given season 3's ratings I'm cautiously optimistic.)

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Re: DC Animation

Postby Mothra » Wed Jul 31, 2019 9:44 pm

I'm also pretty floored by how fucking many plot threads are running in Young Justice right now. And they keep adding them on. There's like three traitors in the team right now, everyone's got their own subplot going on, three different teams being built, whatever's going on with Superman and the JLU, etc.

That said, I love it. I love watching this show. The latest ep with Aquaman returning home and Halo visiting her parents was great.

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Re: DC Animation

Postby Mothra » Wed Jul 31, 2019 9:46 pm

Beyond that, been watching a good amount of DC Super Hero Girls, which is like a reboot of that bizarre Bratz series they had running on youtube for a while. It's a Lauren Faust show, so, the animation is fun and cartoony, with a lot of good visual gags. Would definitely recommend it, it's been very fun so far. Here's a channel where they just loops episodes over and over.

Helps that it has some great voice acting.

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Re: DC Animation

Postby Thad » Thu Aug 01, 2019 9:38 pm

Thad wrote:(Maybe season 4? It hasn't actually been confirmed that there's going to be one, but given season 3's ratings I'm cautiously optimistic.)

Young Justice season 4 confirmed.

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Re: DC Animation

Postby Thad » Sat Nov 30, 2019 1:51 am

Harley Quinn has potential, partially because the first episode is basically Harley and Ivy with more cursing and violence and less homoeroticism.

The show's driving hard for a Deadpool vibe, but misses the mark pretty hard. It's got the blood and guts and four-letter words, but for the most part, it's not funny, just gratuitous. There are some exceptions; there's a good sight gag involving JB Smoove as off-brand Audrey II, and I love how they're playing Commissioner Gordon. And it's got heart; at its core, it's a story about a woman leaving an abusive relationship. And it's got a great damn cast (Diedrich Bader returns to the role of Batman, Alan Tudyk plays the Joker, Jim Rash is the Riddler; I'm still getting used to Kaley Cuoco's version of Harley but she's good, she just plays it differently than Sorkin, or Strong, who was pretty much doing an impression of Sorkin).

There are moments in the first episode where the show gets out of its own way and does something funny or surprising or heartfelt. I want to like it. First episodes are hard; I'm hoping over time they knock off the edgy-for-edgy's-sake stuff and find out how to make the violence and profanity serve the comedy instead of just doing it because they can. The review over at The Beat seems to indicate that's the case, so, fingers crossed.

Also, one more notable thing: there's a line where the Joker says something like "Gordon's mad at me just because I crippled his partner." Partner, not daughter. Because a show that goes out of its way to be gross and tasteless looked at The Killing Joke and said "Nah, that's too gross and tasteless."

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Re: DC Animation

Postby Blossom » Sun Dec 01, 2019 9:53 pm

This is the adaptation that decided to make Harley and Ivy both avowedly straight, right?
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Re: DC Animation

Postby Thad » Mon Dec 02, 2019 12:03 am

Blossom wrote:This is the adaptation that decided to make Harley and Ivy both avowedly straight, right?

Hard to tell from the first episode, but they don't seem to have any of the romantic chemistry they've had in previous adaptations. Ivy makes a passing reference to an old boyfriend, and Harley only shows interest in Mr. J. There are some homoerotic overtones, but they're all "Joker is in love with Batman."

All I know beyond the first episode is that Comics Beat article I linked indicates that the show continues to treat Harley and Ivy as Just Friends. Which is damned disappointing, but doesn't necessarily translate to "avowedly straight".

If I were to give the show the benefit of the doubt -- and I'd like to, in case my rather apologetic rundown of the first episode didn't make that clear -- I'd say that the best justification for not going straight into a Harley/Ivy relationship is that Harley's just gotten out of an abusive relationship, and maybe the writers think that having the protagonist jump straight into another relationship undermines the message of empowerment and personal growth. Maybe the Harley/Ivy relationship is still to come. I'd sure like for that to be the case, but it's also entirely possible that the show really is as misguided as the first episode suggests and I'm just wasting my time here.

I plan on keeping up with the show for the next couple episodes, anyway; I'll pass on anything I think is notable.

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Re: DC Animation

Postby Blossom » Mon Dec 02, 2019 3:21 am

The review over at The Mary Sue is a hell of a lot less sanguine about the screeners. In 2019, it's not really a message of empowerment and personal growth, it's erasure.
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Re: DC Animation

Postby Thad » Mon Dec 02, 2019 8:59 pm

Welp, that's disappointing but entirely consistent with what I thought of the first episode.

Maybe if I get around to the other twelve I'll wind up feeling more like Maveal about them than Weekes, but...yeah, Weekes sure sounds more like she's describing the show I watched than Maveal does, and that makes me a lot less inclined to sit through another dozen. (Although it does kind of make me look forward to the inevitable interview with whatever disgruntled staffer eventually explains what the fuck happened here and who made all these terrible decisions.)

I can see a defense for not having Harley and Ivy get together right away, but not even acknowledging either character's queerness at any point during the first season is indefensible.

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Re: DC Animation

Postby Thad » Tue Dec 03, 2019 1:08 am

Meanwhile, I haven't quite finished season 3 of Young Justice, but in addition to everything else that's great about it it's extremely LGBT-friendly. It's frustrating that they couldn't acknowledge one of their leads as gay until the show moved off basic cable, but better late than never.

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