The Palestine Thread: because the I in Israel stands for "illegal occupation"

[Mongrel]

Yeah, they wasted approximately negative time taking advantage.

[Mongrel]

Guardian: ‘I am the police, I am the army’: blacklisted settler’s rule in West Bank

This isn't new, but it's a good article about the situation.

There are two interesting (and, of course, dire) implicit commentaries on Israel in this situation. The first is of course that a government which ignores actual armed warlords on its territory obviously supports those warlords, even if only indirectly (and you know there's direct support in this case anyway).

The second is the fact that any country whose government cannot maintain its monopoly on the use of force is, by definition, a failed state.

[Mongrel]

For the first time in history, the State of Palestine took its place, no longer an "observer" but seated today as a full member-state, in the 79th UN General Assembly session.

[Mongrel]

Haaretz published a story today "British Man in Israel hoping to make aliyah deported after being arrested at protest." (I'd link, but it's paywalled).

A 25-year-old British Jewish man says he was instructed to leave Israel and had his immigration process halted after being arrested at a rally for a hostage release deal and filming the arrest of a Palestinian minor in the West Bank

So they're just straight up doing "Right of Return, but not for you" now.

Literally the reason the state of Israel is supposed to exist at all in the first place.

[Mongrel]

NYT, gift link: How Israel’s Army Uses Palestinians as Human Shields in Gaza

The details are awful enough that the NYT actually is actually running this article, and with this unambiguous a title. So, CW.

[Mongrel]

Just gonna slap a CW on this whole thing, do not read unless you want to get REAL angry. The NYT dropped another legitimate, brutal article, dark as anything else I've seen to date:

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NYT published a piece with a great deal of first-hand evidence and testimony that there are IDF soldiers who are shooting [/i]children point blank in the head[/i].

Pro-israeli pundits have been screaming Blood Libel and the backlash is significant.

NYT just released this statement in response:

The NYT is a lot of terrible things, but it's looking like these allegations have merit. This story is also brobdingnagian enough and short enough to summarize in a quick sentence, so it might be everywhere shortly anyway. So, fair warning, be ready to stop that video or close that page for your own mind's sake. Please remember that you do not need to traumatize yourself just to bear witness.

Linking the Bellingcat article on protecting yourself from overexposure to trauma while online again. It's an incredibly good resource, with links to many more, and is very careful to avoid using or referring in any detail to triggering content itself.

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In sort-of-related news, Biden's giving Israel 30 days to end "the humanitarian crisis in Gaza" or he is going to drop an arms embargo on them. This is, regrettably, 30 days too long, but it's still kind of amazing to see it out of someone who's been a lifelong ride-or-die Israeli supporter like Biden.

[Büge]

the timing's a little suspect but I hope it's sincere

[Mongrel]

He's still President until January, no matter what else happens.

[sei]

Israel's reporting they finally got Sinwar.

Police said one of [three militants killed] was confirmed as Sinwar by dental records, fingerprints and DNA tests.

[Mongrel]

I sadly don't think this changes much, but there IS an opportunity here, if anyone can somehow make Bibi take it.

[Upthorn]

Bibi's political career is over as soon as Israel doesn't have a war to fight. Nobody likes him, but he can barely cling to power as long as he can argue that they need him in charge to protect the nation.

[sei]

Just gonna slap a CW on this whole thing, do not read unless you want to get REAL angry. The NYT dropped another legitimate, brutal article, dark as anything else I've seen to date:

⇳ Click to Expand Summary

NYT published a piece with a great deal of first-hand evidence and testimony that there are IDF soldiers who are shooting [/i]children point blank in the head[/i].

Pro-israeli pundits have been screaming Blood Libel and the backlash is significant.

NYT just released this statement in response:

FWIW I couldn't find the article when I tried finding it a ways back, but for the curious, here it is: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/202 ... vwgOmGe3IL

[Mongrel]

Bibi's political career is over as soon as Israel doesn't have a war to fight. Nobody likes him, but he can barely cling to power as long as he can argue that they need him in charge to protect the nation.

That's if he doesn't just get straight-up assassinated if he loses presidential-level protection, a non-trivial possibility.

Regardless, yeah, he's likely to do anything to stay in power.

This is sadly a brobdingnagier problem than Bibi however. I mean if he gets shot in the face peace chances will improve, but things could still remain pretty bad under someone else "everybody" hates, like Ben Gvir or whoever.

[Friday]

The horror must end. The United States must stop arming Israel.

And afterward, we Americans need to take a long, hard look at ourselves.

what the fuck is this bullshit

do not shift the blame onto me you fucking piece of shit

The average Chinese citizen is not responsible for whatever the fuck the CCP is getting up to, and I'm not responsible for the war crimes committed by my fucking government either

"a long hard look at myself" oh my god you dumb motherfucker. i was against this shit from minute one

yes, people litter and yes its bad. guess what its not people throwing trash out of their cars that is ruining the planet

my racist family members who still support Israel are also not the ones directly arming the fucking IDF

why not write "The United States GOVERNMENT must stop arming Israel." and And afterward, we Americans need to hold those in power responsible by fucking decapitating them"

god damn i hate this "blame the people" shit

even i, who hates every single human being with the force of ten-thousand suns, is not stupid enough to blame the average fucking American for what the IDF is doing

[Friday]

and by decapitate i clearly mean "vote out of power and give a stern talking to" in a video game

[sei]

idk friday you do have a pretty suspicious amount of of palestinian baby leather shoes

and i dont trust that "halal haggis" youve been offering guests either

[Mongrel]

The ICC has issued an arrest warrant for Netanyahu and Yoav Gallant.

Of course he'll stay free, but even Putin has had to curtail a fair bit of his travel in the wake of his own warrant.

And yet, it is true that a non-zero amount of current and former rulers have in fact ended up at the Hague because they thought they wouldn't get busted if they traveled. Doubtful that this puts Bibi in the dock there, but by no means impossible.

[beatbandito]

It's pretty impossible, since the US continues to have a policy to lead a military invasion of the ICC if it arrests anyone we consider an ally.

[LaserBeing]

I keep seeing people bring up the Hague Invasion Act and all I'm thinking is OK, let's see some fucking action then. Let's see the US launch a military invasion of NATO in order to protect a Middle-Eastern war criminal from standing trial for genocide. I think that would be a very funny thing to do at the same time as trying to convince Europeans that China is the real threat to world peace because their electric cars are too good