"Coronavirus" is the category, dangit. (COVID-19 thread)

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Postby nosimpleway » Sun Nov 07, 2021 3:48 pm

Big Bird: bad
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Postby Thad » Mon Nov 08, 2021 2:12 pm

I can't find the tweet, but I saw one to the effect of "Hm, whose side am I on, Big Bird or Ted Cruz? That's a real toughie."

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Postby nosimpleway » Mon Nov 08, 2021 9:14 pm

One is kind of whiny and sniveling and flies south when it gets cold, and the other one is a six-year-old bird-child.

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Re: "Coronavirus" is the category, dangit. (COVID-19 thread)

Postby Mongrel » Tue Nov 09, 2021 3:03 pm

This is nuts. I think a lot of former Iron Curtain countries are in a similar position.

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Postby Brentai » Tue Nov 09, 2021 8:07 pm

Thanks to Twitter blocking it now looks like you're reacting to Ted Cruz.
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Re: "Coronavirus" is the category, dangit. (COVID-19 thread)

Postby Mongrel » Tue Nov 09, 2021 8:21 pm

Brentai wrote:Thanks to Twitter blocking it now looks like you're reacting to Ted Cruz.

I was very confused until i realized that you're replying to the earlier Big Bird stuff and not the Bulgaria Covid situation.

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Postby mharr » Tue Nov 09, 2021 9:00 pm

Wait, twitter blocked Big Bird? Cancel culture is truly out of control.

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Re: "Coronavirus" is the category, dangit. (COVID-19 thread)

Postby Friday » Wed Nov 10, 2021 2:53 pm

God damn I miss Alan Rickman. I think he might be my favorite actor. It's really close between him and Judi Dench.
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Re: "Coronavirus" is the category, dangit. (COVID-19 thread)

Postby Yoji » Tue Nov 23, 2021 4:54 pm

Well, that's weird. Or maybe I'm just missing something?

How many people have died worldwide of this thing? 258 million?

Yup, there's the US at the top.

Pfff, India is only ranked third, even though they have literally a billion people.

...wait, why can't I find the other population of one billion? I can't find China's numbers anywhere... Are they fudging the numbers so badly that Google took it down?
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Postby Upthorn » Thu Nov 25, 2021 1:27 am

The numbers for China show up in https://ncov2019.live/data/asia

I actually find them believable, well, I saw videos of people from Wuhan begging for help because they were being locked and welded into their homes with no allowance made to get supplies. If the Chinese authorities were covering up the scale of the pandemic, there's no way we wouldn't be getting videos of people begging for help because their relatives disappeared with no acknowledgement of what happened.
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Re: "Coronavirus" is the category, dangit. (COVID-19 thread)

Postby Mongrel » Thu Nov 25, 2021 6:40 pm



New South African variant identified as having mutated during a long stay in an AIDS patient who naturally had a weakened immune system. Note that whoever this wasn't some dickhead wandering around heedlessly - they were being treated. This was just a consequence of someone having a really long chronic case of Covid so their body basically became a production lab.

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- New variant 'B.1.1.529' with potentially significantly higher transmission rates than almost any previous variant
- Preliminary results show B.1.1 has a much stronger ability to evade existing immunities, both antibodies from vaccination and exposure
- May even evade monoclonal antibody treatments.
- Higher evasion does not mean vaccines are useless. As before, they continue to help with the all-important "not dying" bit.
- Similarly, the overall severity of infection is unknown. Possibly lighter! But not much information yet.
- Repeats a specific genetic variation from the original alpha variant, so it can already be specifically tested for using existing tests!
- South Africa trying to stay as on top of it as possible and is trying to share every scrap of information as soon as they get it, good on them, they are doing a global service
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Re: "Coronavirus" is the category, dangit. (COVID-19 thread)

Postby Mongrel » Wed Dec 01, 2021 3:02 am

Small Omicron update, and it's not bad!

- Moderna less effective, but not dramatically so (they still took a stock hit).
- Pfizer nearly as effective in prevention (95% to 93%) and NO reduction in effectiveness in preventing serious illness or hospitalization.

Haven't seen any press releases yet for AZ, etc.

Incidentally, previous infection is very weak protection against Omicron, so after totally unvaccinated people, the highest risk group BY FAR for Omicron are people who are unvaccinated and who have been previously infected. Which may be good news depending on how brutally callous you want to be about it.
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Re: "Coronavirus" is the category, dangit. (COVID-19 thread)

Postby Friday » Wed Dec 01, 2021 2:28 pm

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Friday wrote:Given the expected vaccine is still a year away (summer 2021) and how second and third wave dynamics work, yeah, I'd say 1 million dead americans is a safe bet in the year(s) to come. x20 or so worldwide.

I sincerely hope I am wrong. I'd love nothing more for me to quote this post in a year, with only, say, 250000 dead, and say, "Thank God I was wrong."



I think you're wrong Friday. Not about American numbers, about the worldwide numbers. I think other countries have mostly learned.



Yeah, could be. I mean, I'm one-billion percent in the "please let be wrong" place. But I don't make deals with my emotions when I deal with numbers.

China and their lack of reporting aside, India and Russia worry me. Perhaps 20x was overly cynical, 5-10x (so 5 to 10 million dead worldwide instead of 20) might be more accurate.

Again, I'm speaking of numbers that are a year to two years away.


Current US Covid Deaths: 777,000
Current World Covid Deaths: 5,220,000

So, a little less than 7x.
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Re: "Coronavirus" is the category, dangit. (COVID-19 thread)

Postby Brentai » Wed Dec 01, 2021 2:45 pm

2 million unreported is pretty damned believable.
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Re: "Coronavirus" is the category, dangit. (COVID-19 thread)

Postby Mongrel » Wed Dec 01, 2021 3:57 pm

Yeah, I think it'll be years before we get the full picture.
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