Election 2024: The Quest for Peace

[Mongrel]

[Mongrel]

Trump campaign affiliated PACs are cancelling ad reservations in Michigan:



I'd say something cutesy like "Ether they're so confident in victory that they think they don't need ads anymore, or they're broke." only we know the Adelson PAC which was responsible for MI ad outlay started out with $100 mil, were down to $7 mil in September, and Adelson's widow has so far refused to shell out another dollar. THEY BROKE-ASS.

[beatbandito]

[Mongrel]

That's a perfectly reasonable answer. That's literally the way Canadian abortion doctrine works thanks to Dr. Henry Morgenthaler: It's a medical decision, not a politician's. If an individual doctor is refusing fully legal medically necessary care, that's a separate issue, but any responsible doctor will prescribe necessary care.

The interviewer is trying to bait a soundbite.

[Mongrel]

A reminder of Trump's Policies on trans folks - and also that the electorate isn't having that shit, the way Trump wants them to

[Büge]

That's a perfectly reasonable answer. That's literally the way Canadian abortion doctrine works thanks to Dr. Henry Morgenthaler: It's a medical decision, not a politician's. If an individual doctor is refusing fully legal medically necessary care, that's a separate issue, but any responsible doctor will prescribe necessary care.

The interviewer is trying to bait a soundbite.

unfortunately, "the law" in several states, e.g. Florida, is to deny care to trans patients, deny trans access to public bathrooms, and to rat out trans kids to their parents

hell, there's still trans panic defense on the books in over twenty states

[Mongrel]

That's a perfectly reasonable answer. That's literally the way Canadian abortion doctrine works thanks to Dr. Henry Morgenthaler: It's a medical decision, not a politician's. If an individual doctor is refusing fully legal medically necessary care, that's a separate issue, but any responsible doctor will prescribe necessary care.

The interviewer is trying to bait a soundbite.

unfortunately, "the law" in several states, e.g. Florida, is to deny care to trans patients, deny trans access to public bathrooms, and to rat out trans kids to their parents

hell, there's still trans panic defense on the books in over twenty states

This is true, but the example Harris was citing for this specific question is federal law.

[Mongrel]

In lighter news, did anyone see Carlson take the crowd out past the breakers yesterday?

At Trump’s rally in Duluth, however, the crowd reveled in the idea of father Trump doling out punishments. T-shirts sold outside Trump’s events have long cast him as a ‘Daddy’ figure, but Carlson took that idea much further on Wednesday.”

Carlson, who was fired from Fox last year, assured the crowd they were not ‘freaks and misfits,’ and railed against Democrats as ‘the party of weak men and unhappy women.’

[...]

“There has to be a point at which Dad comes home.” At this point the crowd erupted into raucous cheers.

“Dad comes home and he’s pissed,” Carlson continues. “He’s not vengeful, he loves his children. Disobedient as they may be, he loves them … And when Dad gets home, you know what he says? You’ve been a bad girl. You’ve been a bad little girl and you’re getting a vigorous spanking right now. And no, it’s not going to hurt me more than it hurts you. No, it’s not. I’m not going to lie. It’s going to hurt you a lot more than it hurts me. And you earned this. You’re getting a vigorous spanking because you’ve been a bad girl, and it has to be this way.”

Clearly this struck a chord with the crowd. Later, when Trump came on stage, they screamed “Daddy’s home” and “Daddy Don”. Sigmund Freud almost rose from his grave.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... p-spanking

[François]

I keep forgetting Carlson doesn't live in Russia.

[Crick]

"Some--sometimes... daddy just has to come home... he has to come home and spank you... and oooo it's gonna hurt... when daddy comes home..."

[beatbandito]

That's a perfectly reasonable answer. That's literally the way Canadian abortion doctrine works thanks to Dr. Henry Morgenthaler: It's a medical decision, not a politician's. If an individual doctor is refusing fully legal medically necessary care, that's a separate issue, but any responsible doctor will prescribe necessary care.

The interviewer is trying to bait a soundbite.

The question was not to what degree care should be given or how it should be accessed. It is literally "do you believe transgender americans should have access to gender-affirming care". She does not believe they should if she thinks laws can circumvent that access. This is supposed to be the reason pushback on genocide is too risky. Yes "Trump will be worse" but so will everything if nothing is worth taking a stand over.

[Mongrel]

She does not believe they should if she thinks laws can circumvent that access.

You do realize that she's actively enforced provisions to ensure the accessibility of transgender care via law when she was AG in CA, right?

Would it be better for her to take a firmer rhetorical stand? Probably. Should we forget state laws, as Buge rightly pointed out? Of course not. But this isn't some abstract philosophical question without context, her record is one of active support in rule and legislation.

[Mongrel]

NYT, gift link (for however long it works): Sweeping Raids, Giant Camps and Mass Deportations: Inside Trump’s 2025 Immigration Plans

To help speed mass deportations, Mr. Trump is preparing an enormous expansion of a form of removal that does not require due process hearings. To help Immigration and Customs Enforcement carry out sweeping raids, he plans to reassign other federal agents and deputize local police officers and National Guard soldiers voluntarily contributed by Republican-run states.

To ease the strain on ICE detention facilities, Mr. Trump wants to build huge camps to detain people while their cases are processed and they await deportation flights. And to get around any refusal by Congress to appropriate the necessary funds, Mr. Trump would redirect money in the military budget, as he did in his first term to spend more on a border wall than Congress had authorized.

In a second Trump presidency, the visas of foreign students who participated in anti-Israel or pro-Palestinian protests would be canceled. U.S. consular officials abroad will be directed to expand ideological screening of visa applicants to block people the Trump administration considers to have undesirable attitudes. People who were granted temporary protected status because they are from certain countries deemed unsafe, allowing them to lawfully live and work in the United States, would have that status revoked.

In interviews with The New York Times, several Trump advisers gave the most expansive and detailed description yet of Mr. Trump’s immigration agenda in a potential second term. In particular, Mr. Trump’s campaign referred questions for this article to Stephen Miller, an architect of Mr. Trump’s first-term immigration policies who remains close to him and is expected to serve in a senior role in a second administration.

All of the steps Trump advisers are preparing, Mr. Miller contended in a wide-ranging interview, rely on existing statutes; while the Trump team would likely seek a revamp of immigration laws, the plan was crafted to need no new substantive legislation. And while acknowledging that lawsuits would arise to challenge nearly every one of them, he portrayed the Trump team’s daunting array of tactics as a “blitz” designed to overwhelm immigrant-rights lawyers.

“Any activists who doubt President Trump’s resolve in the slightest are making a drastic error: Trump will unleash the vast arsenal of federal powers to implement the most spectacular migration crackdown,” Mr. Miller said, adding, “The immigration legal activists won’t know what’s happening.”

Soon after Mr. Trump announced his 2024 campaign for president last November, he met with Tom Homan, who ran ICE for the first year and a half of the Trump administration and was an early proponent of separating families to deter migrants.

In an interview, Mr. Homan recalled that in that meeting, he “agreed to come back” in a second term and would “help to organize and run the largest deportation operation this country’s ever seen.”

More broadly, Mr. Miller said a new Trump administration would shift from the ICE practice of arresting specific people to carrying out workplace raids and other sweeps in public places aimed at arresting scores of unauthorized immigrants at once.

While a law known as the Posse Comitatus Act generally forbids the use of the armed forces for law enforcement purposes, another law called the Insurrection Act creates an exception. Mr. Trump would invoke the Insurrection Act at the border, enabling the use of federal troops to apprehend migrants, Mr. Miller said.

“Bottom line,” he said, “President Trump will do whatever it takes.”

These are concrete and feasible measures being planned. Miller is proud of his work and happy to announce it.

[Mongrel]

In case you haven't heard, Harris is holding another Town Hall tonight, (doors open in about five minutes!), this one in in Texas, with Beyoncé and Willie Nelson, which is even better than blackjack and hookers.

Last town hall had 3.3 million viewers, which is nearly 1% of the entire US of A tuning into a political rally at the same time. This one will probably beat those numbers.

[Thad]

Also, holding a town hall in Texas 11 days before the election is the move of somebody who's confident of her chances.

Like, obviously having two of the brobdingnagiest entertainers in the country gives it a national draw, but I bet they'd have done an event in Arizona, Georgia, or South Carolina if she'd asked them to.

Not that I expect Harris to win Texas, of course, but stumping for Allred couldn't hurt.

[Mongrel]

amazing

[Mongrel]

It does not appear Trump's interview with Rogan went very well

i think this might end up being a disaster [for Trump], Rogan’s a caveman idiot, but when caveman idiots figure out they’re being lied to, it doesn’t go well. no bets, though, he’s also an easily bought caveman idiot.

EDIT: In the same interview Trump said he wanted to be a whale psychiatrist.

[Thad]

Jesus Christ, when Joe Rogan's questions are too hard-hitting for you...

It's like Sarah Palin not being able to answer "What newspapers do you read?" Or that time Jan Brewer tried to fire the redistricting committee and, in an interview on that specific subject, did not have an answer to "What did they do that was grounds for removing them?"

[Mongrel]

In other fun news, tonight 30,000 Texans chanted "BEAT TED CRUZ! BEAT TED CRUZ!" with the same gusto as if they were booing the Yankees.

[Mongrel]

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