Thad wrote:And I'm loving the deep cuts. Hard to decide which is the deepest
The answer is Marv Wolfman.
Friday wrote:McFarlane's problem is he actually is capable of writing pretty clever, biting jokes, but usually instead just opts to have Neal Patrick Harris shit into a hat for a minute straight.
Upthorn wrote:The first season of The Orville does have a few painful "MacFarlane comedy" moments, but it grows out of them fairly quickly. The larger problem is that he's nowhere near as good a progressive moralist as Gene Roddenberry, or even Rick Berman. So, there are a few episodes where the moral is painfully bad, such as:
Judging celebrities based on social media clips is really bad, guys!
Porn is shameful, never use porn when you have a partner!
But there's also a fair number of really good episodes, with properly thought out commentary on social issues that are actually, kind of, really important. So it's a mixed bag.
Oh, but also its depiction of relationships is super, super toxic and bad. Don't follow any of The Orville's relationship advice, ever.
MacGyver interrupts his car voyage after witnessing at night what seems an UFO landing. Meeting young Tommy Wiley, who pouts having to move to a paradisaic planet as his father, a simpleton farmer in debt, sees no other hope for his terminally ill mother, Mac smells a rat. Indeed, the 'phenomenon' is staged cleverly by the crook couple Ray and dawn Rigel, who charge the farmers the price of their farm, but will stop at nothing to cash in and move on. The sheriff has no basis to act, except against Mac.
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