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Re: Thundercats

Postby Thad » Fri Apr 17, 2020 12:27 pm

You know what chaps my ass?

I've watched the credits to Thundercats Roar (in slow motion, so I actually had time to read them) and you know what name isn't in them? Bernard Hoffer.

The music credit is "Music by Matthew Janszen." And no disrespect to Janszen, who's certainly contributed some new music to the show and deserves recognition for it, but the vast majority of the music cues are from the original series (and the ones that are new are, in many cases, new arrangements of themes from the original series).

If Wikipedia is to be believed, Hoffer is still alive. I hope he's at least getting royalties, but his name should be in there given how extensively they're using his work.

ETA: found a thread with people discussing it, including someone who claims to be in contact with Hoffer. Hoffer (purportedly) says he sold all the music rights. If he signed away his publicity rights as part of the deal, that's his call to make, but I still think it stinks. I'ma head over to IMDb and see if I can add a "Bernard Hoffer (uncredited) - music" credit or somesuch added.

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Re: Thundercats

Postby Thad » Mon Jul 06, 2020 6:37 pm



(music by Bernard Hoffer)

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Re: Thundercats

Postby Friday » Mon Jul 06, 2020 7:13 pm

I've given a lot of thought as to what the absolute best OP is and let me say that Thundercats on cello is fucking up there
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Re: Thundercats

Postby Friday » Mon Jul 06, 2020 7:13 pm

top 100 cartoon/anime OP list coming soon
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Re: Thundercats

Postby Thad » Thu Oct 19, 2023 8:01 pm

New Thundercats comic by Declan Shalvey and Drew Moss. Could be good. Looks to be based on TOS; not a reboot, side stories set around the time of the early episodes.

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Re: Thundercats

Postby Büge » Sat Oct 21, 2023 7:36 am

so it's not set in the continuity where Wilykit and Wilykat are sex slaves
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Re: Thundercats

Postby Thad » Mon Oct 23, 2023 10:40 am

Well, I suppose you could think of it as a prequel if you want.

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Re: Thundercats

Postby Thad » Sun Feb 18, 2024 1:09 pm

Thad wrote:New Thundercats comic by Declan Shalvey and Drew Moss. Could be good. Looks to be based on TOS; not a reboot, side stories set around the time of the early episodes.

#1 is fine. Retells the story of the first episode with a couple of retcons that make the timeline somehow make even less sense; introduces most of the principal cast (Snarf is nowhere to be found). Some character redesigns, most notably Tygra's righteous 'stache.

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It gets a fair amount done for a first issue. The Sword of Omens gets broken, which is boring but isn't the twist; Mumm-Ra confronting Jaga is, and that's a lot more interesting. The show rarely had Jaga interact with anyone but Lion-O, the Grune episode being the big exception.

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Re: Thundercats

Postby Thad » Wed Mar 27, 2024 12:09 pm

#2 has some nice character moments. There's a good bit where Wilykit and Wilykat discuss how Lion-O is treating them differently now. I'd say that was definitely in the background in TOS -- that even though Lion-O's physically older than they are they still have more experience and a part to play in helping him grow into his role -- but I don't remember any point where they ever actually sat down and had a conversation about how it feels to have somebody who was a peer last week suddenly age ten years and start treating you differently.

Slithe (or possibly Slythe; they can't seem to decide on a spelling) has a good moment too, where he acknowledges that he's wounded from the battle in the previous issue but can't show weakness in front of his men or they'll kill him to take power. (At this point his men are the various Reptilian underlings who appeared in the early episodes of the show and then disappeared without explanation; we haven't seen Jackalman or Monkian yet.) But then he doesn't act particularly wounded as he gets a fight scene in with one of those random giant monsters that are scattered all about Third Earth (and yeah it's one from TOS).

They introduce a new Thunderian, Calica, and Lion-O immediately develops a crush on her; it's a promising enough setup but feels a little too similar to the Pumyra arc on Thundercats 2011.

Panthro and Lion-O butt heads and Tygra separates them (then tells Panthro "of course you're right, but challenging him in front of us is just going to make him dig his heels in"); Panthro goes off to mutter to himself about how god dammit Jaga, you really fucked us here; I'm a general, not some opera floozy; how am I supposed to do my job and look after my overgrown 12-year-old boss at the same time? etc. and he has a point. I feel like Jaga really should have brought someone along on the mission whose only job was to look after Lion-O and who didn't have any other obligations, maybe somebody who wasn't very good in a fight and might be a bit of a whiny scold but could at least devote his full energies to trying to stop Lion-O from fucking up all the time. Sadly, no such character exists; Jaga really dropped the ball on that one.

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